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Gaddafi army 'not at breaking point'
BBC News ^ | 31 March 2011

Posted on 03/31/2011 8:05:19 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Libya leader Muammar Gaddafi's armed forces are not close to breaking point despite hundreds of allied air strikes, American military chiefs have said.

Adm Mike Mullen told a US Congress committee Col Gaddafi's troops still had 10 times the rebels' firepower.

At the same hearing, Defence Secretary Robert Gates reiterated the US would put no "boots on the ground" in Libya.

Rebels and pro-Gaddafi forces appear to have reached a stalemate in their fight for control of the country.

In recent days, rebels have been urging international forces to conduct more air strikes.

Adm Mullen told the House of Representatives armed forces committee that bad weather had stopped them from identifying targets over the past three or four days.

"[The weather] has more than anything else reduced the impact... reduced the effectiveness, and has allowed the regime forces to move back to the east," the AFP news agency quoted him as saying.

Despite the weather, he said the air strikes since the beginning of the operation had wiped out between 20% and 25% of Col Gaddafi's forces.

"We have actually fairly seriously degraded his military capabilities. That does not mean he's about to break, from a military standpoint, because that's not the case," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; breaking; gaddafi; islam; jihad; libya; marxist; point
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To: FreeReign

CHILLING

The English version spells ALL of this out

http://jihadology.net/2011/03/29/al-qa%E2%80%99idah-in-the-arabian-peninsula%E2%80%99s-al-mala%E1%B8%A5im-media-releases-inspire-magazine-issue-5/

Why is more light not being shed on this publication?

This should be everywhere


41 posted on 03/31/2011 9:36:48 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: FreeReign
BTW, as a side note, it was Qaddafi and his son, over the past couple of years, who have released all of the Iraqi foreign fighters from Libya that we gave to them. Qaddafi set at least two conditions for their release, 1.) that they don't participate in jihad in Libya, and 2.) that it's okay they take their jihad back to Iraq and Afghanistan, to fight against our GI's.

Actually, all of the Muslim governments have released the foreign fighters we've handed to them. They've done so for the same reason as Gaddafi - the Muslim masses don't consider killing GI's a problem - continuing to imprison anti-American jihadis stirs up accusations that these Muslim governments are American puppets.

42 posted on 03/31/2011 9:39:02 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: DBeers
I believe you are right -

"I believe the destruction of Israel is the marxist's primary objective."

that is part of the prerequisite for the return of the Madhi - however it's spelled.

When the election went against obummer so badly, I suspect he and his handlers panicked and moved up their schedule. That is resulting in added chaos - and, hopefully, inadvertently showing their hand and find themselves 'hoisted by their own - or ANYONES! = petard."

Beside reestablishing the Caliphate in Tripoli and gaining control of the oil flow to Italy and above, there's the billions in gold that Qaddafi kept at home, not in the Swiss Bank.

I suspicion "the spoils" have already been agreed upon - Soros gels the gold, bummer and gang get the oil and the muzzies get a country to operate freely from. (in addition, obummer may have visions of himself as the Madhi...)

43 posted on 03/31/2011 9:39:48 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: FreeReign
BTW, as a side note, it was Qaddafi and his son, over the past couple of years, who have released all of the Iraqi foreign fighters from Libya that we gave to them. Qaddafi set at least two conditions for their release, 1.) that they don't participate in jihad in Libya, and 2.) that it's okay they take their jihad back to Iraq and Afghanistan, to fight against our GI's.

In fact, where Gaddafi merely released Libyans who were captured in Iraq, our Iraqi allies have released Iraqi guerillas who have killed GI's.

44 posted on 03/31/2011 9:43:11 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: Carling
Sorry FRiend, but your logic is convuluted on this one. Whether or not Qaddafi needs to go is one thing; who we’re supporting is quite another thing, regardless of what Qaddafi and his son have done since Obomba was elected as President.

Sorry FRriend, but I suspect that you don't know what my position is and I suspect that your position is wussified.

Qaddafi killed 189 of our citizens at Lockerbie. Qaddafi killed our servicemen in Germany. Qaddafi has released all of the Al Qaeda associated LIFG fighters from his prisons over the last two year and Qaddafi has told them to head back to Iraq and Afghanistan to wage jihad.

My position, regardless of what ever the hell Obama is doing, is that we should remove the terrorist Qaddafi and that we should remove all Al Qaeda that we find.

Anything short of that is appeasement.

Do you actually disagree?

45 posted on 03/31/2011 9:44:41 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: silentknight

you got a link for the ENGLISH version?


46 posted on 03/31/2011 9:46:34 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Rebels and pro-Gaddafi forces appear to have reached a stalemate in their fight for control of the country.

UN-SOP.

47 posted on 03/31/2011 9:47:58 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: FreeReign
The LA Times numbers come from the U.S. Military. It seems to me you will believe what you want.

The LA Times says it got the numbers from the US military. I don't see a source document. The West Point data comes from Special Operations Command and the report can be read in its entirety at the West Point website.

48 posted on 03/31/2011 9:52:52 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: Carry_Okie
"Rebels and pro-Gaddafi forces appear to have reached a stalemate in their fight for control of the country."

UN-SOP.

Obama SOP too.

49 posted on 03/31/2011 9:53:24 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Qaddafi killed 189 of our citizens at Lockerbie. Qaddafi killed our servicemen in Germany. Qaddafi has released all of the Al Qaeda associated LIFG fighters from his prisons over the last two year and Qaddafi has told them to head back to Iraq and Afghanistan to wage jihad. My position, regardless of what ever the hell Obama is doing, is that we should remove the terrorist Qaddafi and that we should remove all Al Qaeda that we find. Anything short of that is appeasement. Do you actually disagree?

Actually, anything short of that is making peace. Especially given that Gaddafi gave up his nukes and stopped sponsoring terrorist attacks against us. The North Vietnamese killed 60K of our men. The Chinese killed 100K, directly via the Korean War, and indirectly via the Vietnam War (via providing supplies, shelter and training for the North Vietnamese and inserting a tripwire force of 100K PLA troops to discourage US incursions into North Vietnam that could have won the war). If Gaddafi deserves to be toppled, what do the North Vietnamese and the Chinese deserve for us not to be called appeasers, given that they killed hundreds of times more Americans than Gaddafi did?

50 posted on 03/31/2011 9:59:55 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: caww
Sorry if you thought I was referring to you when I referred to "crazy talk" and "lying".

I was referring to Gates...a generally honorable man though weak SecDef.

I'm guessing he wants nothing but OUT.

51 posted on 03/31/2011 10:09:24 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: FreeReign; All

So Qaddafi has set free the Libyan fighters returned to him from Iraq and told them to go back there and fight some more. Can you tell us more about your source for this interesting tidbit.


52 posted on 03/31/2011 10:09:32 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: MinorityRepublican

The wimp in the White House has established wimp rules of engagement, thus they are only allowed to kill the enemy if there is no collateral damage to even a mailbox.

Otherwise this would have been over in two days.


53 posted on 03/31/2011 10:13:36 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Mariner

I don’t trust any speaking for the Government...but in this case I sure hope Gates continues to take this stand. I will be really and truly p*ssed off if Bozo sends our guys there....let the freaking British and French finish this thing off...


54 posted on 03/31/2011 10:17:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: gleeaikin
So Qaddafi has set free the Libyan fighters returned to him from Iraq and told them to go back there and fight some more. Can you tell us more about your source for this interesting tidbit.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Gaddafi survived an Islamist revolt and assassination attempt in the 1995/1996 time frame. I'm sure his attitude - like that of every other Muslim government - is "better us than him". It's the same reason that Muslim governments generally release the prisoners we hand to them - unless those prisoners are guilty of attacking the regime. It's pretty clear to the Muslim masses why they would imprison someone plotting against the regime. Why would they hold someone trying to kill Americans - unless that Muslim government was just another American puppet? Note that the Iraq government has released Iraqi guerrillas who are known to have killed GI's.

I personally think it's stupid to hand these people over to Muslim governments. Why hand them over when we know they almost always have to release them in response to public pressure? It's never been a sin to kill the infidel during the process of waging a jihad. Local Muslim populations probably think Muslim governments should give returned jihadists medals and dancing girls.

55 posted on 03/31/2011 10:20:54 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: gleeaikin
Qaddafi and Al Qaeda associated LIFG prisoners agree to "a new code of jihad" stating that Jihad in Libya is bad but jihad in Afghanistan and Iraq is acceptable.

Libya Jihadi Code

Al Qaeda associated LIFG prisoners released by Qaddafi after agreeing to a new code of jihad.

The Unasked Question in Libya: Where Are the "Reformed" Members of LIFG?

Bonus link showing Qaddafi's support to the Muslim Brotherhood, outside of Libya.

The Muslim Brotherhood and Gaddafi Were Partners

56 posted on 03/31/2011 10:29:25 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Zhang Fei
I personally think it's stupid to hand these people over to Muslim governments.

I agree with that. Qaddafi and the LIFG is exibit A that proves that point.

57 posted on 03/31/2011 10:31:33 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Qaddafi and Al Qaeda associated LIFG prisoners agree to "a new code of jihad" stating that Jihad in Libya is bad but jihad in Afghanistan and Iraq is acceptable.

Actually, this isn't the LIFG's code of jihad - it's the Muslim world's code of jihad. This is why Muslim governments keep releasing the jihadists we hand over to them - unless those jihadists are also guilty of plotting against their home governments, in which case hellish tortures await them.

58 posted on 03/31/2011 10:38:07 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: FreeReign

Qaddafi killed 189 of our citizens at Lockerbie. Qaddafi killed our servicemen in Germany. Qaddafi has released all of the Al Qaeda associated LIFG fighters from his prisons over the last two year and Qaddafi has told them to head back to Iraq and Afghanistan to wage jihad.

My position, regardless of what ever the hell Obama is doing, is that we should remove the terrorist Qaddafi and that we should remove all Al Qaeda that we find.

Anything short of that is appeasement.

Do you actually disagree?


The AQ “rebels” are now fighting against Qadaffi. I think he’s is a tyrant, but that doesn’t mean I support “rebels” that we have no idea about, let alone funding them and giving them air support.

You may have missed it, FRiend, but NATO today warned these “rebels” that unless they stop killing civilians, they will be Obombed as well.

How does it feel to be an Obomba supporter, FRiend?


59 posted on 03/31/2011 10:39:29 PM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: All
In Libya, we should be targeting Qaddafi and any Al Qaeda that shows up. Anything short of that is appeasement in my view.

Does the UN and Obama have the nads to do that?

Of course not.

Does the American public have the will to do that?

Doesn't look like.

I think at some point down the road, we will pay this.

JMHO.

gtg

60 posted on 03/31/2011 10:39:58 PM PDT by FreeReign
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