Posted on 03/28/2011 4:13:23 PM PDT by kristinn
Obama is scheduled to speak at the National Defense University at Ft. McNair in Washington, D.C. about Libya at 7:30 p.m. EDT.
We listened for years as the Rats droned on about Bush and “no exit strategy.” I haven’t heard a peep from any of them about what is Obama’s “exit strategy”?
To argue that close combat isn't war while dropping missiles is is sophistry and not to be taken seriously. War is armed conflict between parties. But I agree that not all military action rises to the the level of "war" as commonly understood when the Constitution was drawn. Of course the duration of the armed conflict doesn't make you any less dead if you are KIA. Do you think terrorists taking Americans hostage is not an act of war? Can and should the CIC respond in kind without a Congressional resolution or declaration of war? There is no section in the Constitution mentioning exigent circumstance but certainly the POTUS has the power to make war on those terrorists, no?
2. The mass killing of Americans is the very definition of “a national emergency created by attack upon the United States.” So even if it was a foreign government who killed the US citizens, there would be no case for the President being prevented to act in the absence of congressional authorization.
For some folks the facts don't matter. The purpose of that section of the WPA was to prevent the CIC from doing just that. See President Ford and the evacuation of Americans and SOuth Vietnamese from Saigon in 1975 while Congress dithered. But it is nice to know that you think the POTUS can acting constitutionally by making war on terrorists who make war on American citizens constitutionally without an act of Congress.
3. The Libya scenario is the definition of the kind of war where you do want congressional approval, I.e. a war of choice where no threat to US territory, property, or citizens exists.
I agree. Obama is moron. What else is new?
If conservatives are going to be taken seriously when pushing for a meaningful interpretation of the constitution, making the requirement for congressional authorization of war void is not a good path to go down.
Congress has powers to check the executive. They have the power of the purse and the power of impeachment. The CIC has the power to make war and when American citizens are attacked that is exactly what he should do. Gadaffi killed American citizens and had Obama explained that his goal was to kill/remove Gadaffi for doing that with the bombing I would support him right now. But he didn't because like I said he's a moron.
But diminishing the power of the CIC for all time with idiotic unconstitutional bs like the WPA because America elected a moron is not something I'm getting on board with.
Adios.
Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid wrote:
“Weiner was saying Trump was playing games and they both knew it)I hate to say this but I think Trump is playing interference for someone to challenge Obama as strange as this sounds...”
I think you’re right! If Trump really wanted to back a Conservative agenda, he would never have given in to the urge to trash W. I think Trump is trying to pull a fast one.
No worries.. My reaction was to take it in a good way.. Then I thought maybe I should correct my typos just for the record.. so I took the opportunity to do so. Thank you for the comment, FRiend. It’s always great to know there are like-minded folks out there! :)
“I am saying that any law that forbids the CIC from making war on terrorists or countries that harm American citizens is no law at all and antithetical to the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. It is the duty of the federal government to protect it’s citizens and the WPA forbids the CIC from doing just that under certain circumstances as I described above.”
First of all, you are wrong on so many levels...are you aware that the CONSTITUTION forbids the President from making war w/out Congressional approval? Are you saying it is “no law at all”....??? The WPA does not forbid the CIC from fighting any wars, it forbids him from randomly invading countries as his mood strikes him....he AT LEAST has a check of power and has to get congressional approval....
How apropos
Did you read anything I wrote? Sheesh.
I quoted it back to you....what did I miss?
A lot of BS progressive talking points but listen very carefully in the end of the video (below) the exchange between Weiner and Trump on polls and running. Tell me what you think, there ‘something’ there?
That was a good clip. The only thing I got from their back-and-forth about running is that they would like to rip each others’ face of but they can’t because they are on television...
I agree! Trump and Weiner sound as if they have a private joke that only they know about right now. Sounds like friendly jesting between allies doesn’t it?
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/04/donald_trump_gave_anthony_wein.html
Donald Trump Gave Anthony Weiner $2,000
4/20/10
ps. Trump-> Hillary-> Huma-> Weiner
Oh, you mean as a political donation. ;0)
The obvious irony of that state dinner for Hu Jintau was that the 2009 Nobel “Peace” Prize winner was hosting an expensive affair for the man holding the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize winner in prison.
Such irony, yet none of the so-called journalists in the Obama-run media bothered to point it out.
Agreed.
But my comment was pretty clearly aimed at leftist politicians, not soldiers.
Don’t forget phlegmatic.
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