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Trump Attacked for Demanding Obama Birth Docs
Newsmax ^ | Friday, 25 Mar 2011 05:01 PM | Dan Weil

Posted on 03/27/2011 4:10:35 PM PDT by Red Steel

Donald Trump’s calls this week for President Barack Obama to release his birth certificate prompted negative reactions from pundits who would like to turn the tables on Trump and say, “You’re fired.”

However, Trump’s comments, made most recently in an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV, also garnered support from those who wonder why Obama has not supplied documentation of where he was born.

Trump rekindled the longtime controversy Wednesday on ABC’s “The View” when he said Obama was “probably” born in the United States, but he wants the president to prove it with a birth certificate.

As for the critics, Brian Lowry of Variety got personal. “More than anything, Trump looks like a buffoon — an egomaniac hopelessly addicted to the spotlight, floating the prospect of a presidential run to a gullible media to boost interest in himself and ‘Celebrity Apprentice,’" Lowry wrote on the magazine’s website.

“Moreover, he seems in complete denial about the fact that his NBC show crested some time ago. Seriously, 8 million viewers or so is ‘through the roof?’ Only if the ceiling is about three inches above your head.”

David Weigel of Slate magazine took up Trump’s challenge to show him a photo of Obama as a child. “I've seen 14-year-old,” Trump said. “I've seen 13-year-old. I haven't seen early pictures." Weigel’s column includes a photo of Obama as a child that appeared on the cover of Time magazine in 2008.

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Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie, a friend of Obama's parents in Hawaii who said he remembers when the future president was born, first vowed to produce an original copy of the president's birth certificate this year.

But he abandoned those efforts because it is against state law to release private documents, CNN quoted his spokeswoman as saying.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


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To: sometime lurker

The HIPAA fine for releasing non medical(birth of a child) information is $100.00 dollars, but no hospital has ever been fined for releasing such information. Hospitals routinely still release such information.


161 posted on 03/27/2011 6:51:58 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: TigersEye
I don’t think that a birth is covered by HIPAA. If you call a hospital and ask if so and so has been admitted they will tell you. It’s not a privacy issue.

This has been discussed at length on other threads. Hospitals, according to HIPAA, must protect confidential health information, which includes

However, there is an exception in that a hospital may have a publicly accessible directory of inpatients, so as to direct visitors to patients. This too is controlled:

the patient must be informed about the information to be included in the directory, and to whom the information may be released, and must have the opportunity to restrict the information or to whom it is disclosed, or opt out of being included in the directory.
Someone who was a patient over four decades ago would not fall under the directory exception. I've had to take a course on HIPAA, it is very restrictive and hospitals are very concerned not to violate the Privacy Rule.
162 posted on 03/27/2011 7:00:16 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: digger48

Who’s back is he on in that pic? His commie grandfather?


163 posted on 03/27/2011 7:00:35 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: TigersEye
You never thought Obama looked like Malcolm X??

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164 posted on 03/27/2011 7:00:44 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Sacajaweau
He’s got “something”...He’s not just looking for the birth certificate. He wants ALL the school records.

Trump has started almost every conversation on this topic by stating that he (Trump) was a very good student at the best school in the country. I've wondered whether this was a dig at Obama's student records.

165 posted on 03/27/2011 7:04:43 PM PDT by CASchack
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To: kabumpo

He certainly does. Look at the eyes especially. BO SR.....not a chance.


166 posted on 03/27/2011 7:06:13 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Eaker

I heard a discussion of this in relation to the union controversy in Wisconsin. Unions spend something like 93% of their money supporting Democrat candidates. Big business, on the other hand, contributes about equally to both political parties. Basically, they want to back the winners....


167 posted on 03/27/2011 7:07:13 PM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: kactus

There was a Senate query about McCain because he was born outside the US while his father was serving in the US Navy in Panama. No one in the Senate seemed curious enough about the circumstances of Obama’s birth. But you are referring only to a Senate action, not the process of state-by-state getting on the ballot. That is the question Huckabee was asked and answered.


168 posted on 03/27/2011 7:08:31 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: jamese777

Luckily she became a naturalized citizen (US Citizen) before Donald was born. This makes Donald a natural born citizen.


169 posted on 03/27/2011 7:12:43 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: digger48

Why has the baby photo on the left been given the title “frank”?


170 posted on 03/27/2011 7:13:21 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Yes I forgot Mr. Keyes. But I don't think he'll be throwing his hat into the ring this time.
171 posted on 03/27/2011 7:15:41 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: patriot08

No. 0blingbling has thicker eyebrows, thicker lips, bigger ears of very different shape, smaller nose, narrower chin.


172 posted on 03/27/2011 7:15:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: sometime lurker

So it is retroactive to five decades ago?


173 posted on 03/27/2011 7:18:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: maine-iac7
No one can buy him, no one can intimidate him. I think he's scaring the bejebbers out of the left.

That's what I thought about Candidate Schwarzenegger at the time. Whoah was I wrong! (With apologies to McClintock)
174 posted on 03/27/2011 7:19:31 PM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: omegadawn
The HIPAA fine for releasing non medical(birth of a child) information is $100.00 dollars, but no hospital has ever been fined for releasing such information. Hospitals routinely still release such information.

You are confusing two things - civil penalties for unintentional HIPAA violations, vs. intentional violations which are a criminal violation with accompanying large fine and possible prison time. Hospitals may confirm that someone is a patient under the directory exception (see post #162), and give general condition while the patient is in the hospital. That does not permit them to give out information on someone who was a patient years ago.

175 posted on 03/27/2011 7:20:16 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: Red Steel

American Thinker just posted a Bill Ayers video from Thursday in which Ayers jokes that he wrote it, and seems to imply that he wants Jack Cashill to help him get the royalties.


176 posted on 03/27/2011 7:20:21 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama channeling TR: "Speak incessantly and carry a little schtick.")
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To: TigersEye
So it is retroactive to five decades ago?

In the sense that hospitals can't now release protected health information on someone from five decades ago, yes. Not retroactive in the sense of hospitals being punished for what they released prior to the HIPAA law.

177 posted on 03/27/2011 7:22:38 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: cookcounty

American Thinker video of Ayers wanting the royalties:

Not surprisingly, Ayers retreated into irony as he ended the session. “Yeah, yeah,” he said after confirming again that he wrote Dreams, “And if you help me prove it, I’ll split the royalties with you. Thank you very much.”

With his final comment, the Ayers-friendly audience laughed in relief. The media will laugh nervously upon seeing the video as well. The White House will not.

video at:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/03/ayers_affirms_he_wrote_dreams.html


178 posted on 03/27/2011 7:24:06 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama channeling TR: "Speak incessantly and carry a little schtick.")
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To: maine-iac7

Take a deep breath and look at what the question and answer that are the topic of this thread are, and not what you are imagining the to be or what you might like them to be.

You may recall that Huckabee ran for the GOP nomination in ‘08, right? And he had to conform to a variety of requirements to get on the ballots in those states where he was a candidate, did he not?

Do you think that might qualify him to answer whether or not candidates have to produce documentation as to their birth to get on the ballot?

The simple fact is that nothing is done to assure that the Constitutional language of Art II, Sec.1, Clause 5 is adhered to before a candidate’s name is put on the ballot. It’s careless oversight resulting from generations of trust that no one would even think to run for POTUS if not eligible.

In addition, the mere production of a birth certificate does not, imo, establish one’s “natural born citizen[ship].”
There is nothing on anyone’s birth certificate as to his/her parents’ citizenship. How is a state registrar or secretary of state to determine eligibility?

The SCOTUS has turned down several entreaties to define language that was understood at the time of the framing of the Constitution of exactly what that phrase means.

Frankly, I don’t know from whence you derived your claims of my ‘pontificating’ or being a troll or ignorant. I fear I know a good deal more about this issue than most, especially those who post without even understanding the question raised or the answer given.


179 posted on 03/27/2011 7:24:20 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: jamese777
He would have made a great “natural born American.”

My my my. What a statement from the resident Obozo Troll, my little friend "jamese777". First time I ever remember you admitting that it requires 2 parents with United States (not just American) citizenship to father a "natural born" United States Citizen.

Now tell me what qualifies Barrack H. Obama, Jr. to be a "natural born" United States Citizen as the Constitution requires? (hint: it is not possible, if Barrack H. Obama, Sr. is his father)

180 posted on 03/27/2011 7:24:48 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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