I appreciate your response; tho I think we will have to disagree until barry actually allows a release of his transcripts. Problem in all this is due to barry’s refusal to allow the release of basically ANY DOCUMENTS relating to his life before running for President (like even some IL state records), you and I are speculating. Why won’t he release any documents?!
You are looking at current Occy scholarships info—2010, not from the 80s, the time period that is germane to the discussion.
You state it was harder to get scholarships back then—I found nothing to support that in a search. I did find that international student admission numbers are up since then. You state it is easier to get scholarships as a US student (what if you weren’t US or weren’t bright?) I found a number of websites listing various scholarships for internationals that are current, but nothing from the 80s. You imply that because I worked with State school admissions, my first-hand experience is not relevant.
At the time when I was working with foreign students, they were enjoying benefits not available to US out-of-state students. Yes, I worked for state school, but the private universities were/are very competitive with funding, and if they wanted to fill out demographic groups or bring in certain students, they can fund. Having a collegiate athlete, I am aware that private schools can fund D-3 athletes on a variety of scholarships that are not related to athletic ability—they get top quality athletes without athletic scholarships; private schools can be flexible if they want certain students or demographics. I have no idea what Occy’s endowment situation was in the 80s, how many international students received funding or how they were funded.
If you have studied barry’s campaign, you may be aware that early in the campaign, there were a number of foreign backers that he met in college. Theories abound that they may have bankrolled some of his education. We won’t know because the records are sealed. Why?
Regarding scholarship money, it has always been available for very bright US students - the “35 on the ACT” crowd. The waivers were for “the rest of the students”; it is possible that barry may have gotten more favorable admission status (not financial aid) as an international if he did not have a stellar high school career. Again, we don’t have his transcript from high school or college, so it is all speculation.
As I said there was a push back in late 70s to bring in international students. Not so sure that is the case today—The number of foreign students attending has increased over the years. I can link that if you want...
You state: This was no different in 1980. If anything, it was even harder back then for a foreigner to get aid.
Are you sure? You state this as fact, but is it? I can find no information to support that. BTW, I attended universities in 4 states in the late 70s early 80s, and worked at one. I can’t agree that it is no different than in 1980. College and college funding is hugely different today.
Again, guess we will have to disagree, because showing me Occy 2010 web page does not sway me. Your profile indicates you wish to debunk birthers. With that as your mission, you have already developed your template into which you are fitting the pieces. I have no such mission, so I am willing to entertain these possibilities—tho I am not stating everything as if it is absolute fact. I say it is plausible. Anyway, if barry would release the da** transcripts and records, this would be moot. If these theories are all smoke and no fire, why does he fight so hard to keep them sealed—being so transparent and all?
Good day.
Barry isn't fighting the release of his transctips. Since they are protected by privacy laws, there is no need to fight anything. Like Bush, he is simply exercising his right to decline to release them. (That someone managed to illegally leak Bush's without his permission doesn't change this fact).
Now since it is you who want to force him to release a private document he is under to obligation to release, the burden of proof is on you to show that there is a compelling reason to release it.
You have not done this. The best reason you can provide is the allegation that he registered as a foreign student. If you want that to stick, the burden is on you to show that it is even plausible. The burden is not on me to show that it is implausible.
If you really wish to assert that it is plausible he registered as a foreigner in order to benefit from a scholarship program restricted to foreigners, at a bear minimum you would have to demonstrate:
1) That there in fact were scholarships at Oxy that it was easier for foreigners to get.
2) That it would have been easier for Barry to get these scholarships than the massive amounts of aid available only to US citizens and permanent residents (i.e. Pell grants, subsidized student loans, etc).
You, and the rest of the birthers, have utterly failed to do even the first of these.
No birther to this date has come up with a single example of a scholarship that Barry could have gotten as an Indonesian to study at Occidental that he couldn't have gotten as a US citizen.
As such, there is no reason to even suspect that the allegation about his registration status is true.