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Palin: I could have brought change in '08
The Hill ^ | 3/19/11 | Jordan Fabian

Posted on 03/20/2011 9:21:53 PM PDT by Libloather

Palin: I could have brought change in '08
By Jordan Fabian - 03/19/11 12:52 PM ET

Republicans would have been more successful in the 2008 presidential elections if she was at the top of the ticket, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin suggested Saturday.

Speaking at the India Today Conclave in New Delhi, Palin was asked why the GOP ticket did not defeat then-Sen. Barack Obama (D). Palin said that Obama ran a strong campaign and effectively billed himself as a change candidate.

Pressed by India Today editor Aroon Purie that she also represented change, Palin replied, "I wasn't at the top of the ticket, remember?"

The 2008 vice presidential nominee said she was not claiming she should have been the nominee over Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), but her comments provide a glimpse of her potential appeal to voters should she choose to run for the nomination in 2012.

Palin reiterated that she has not yet decided is she will run.

"I don't think that there needs to be a rush still to get out there as a declared candidate," she said.

When asked about the greatest lessons she learned from 2008, Palin did not mention the friction between McCain's camp and hers. Instead she said the experience informed her public relations strategy.

"One thing I learned is that you cannot trust the mainstream media to accurately report on [your record and accomplishments]," she said. "You have to have the boldness, the courage to set the record straight yourself."

She even accused Republicans of not defending their records vigorously enough.

"Too often, Republicans have the fighting instinct of sheep sometimes," she said. When it comes to correcting the record, "I will put my foot down."

Rebutting a criticism often used against her, Palin said, "It's not victimization, I'm not playing the victim card."

Palin also touted her role as a key figure in the Tea Party movement, saying that it helps enforce accountability amongst politicians on both sides of the aisle.

"It's going to grow, it's going to be more influential and it's going to hold our politicians accountable," she said.

Palin even compared the Tea Party movement to the pro-democratic uprisings that have sprouted up across the Middle East.

The Tea Party is "all about empowerment of everyday, independent patriots ... to change the balance of power," she said. "The changing balance of power throughout the world today is driven by empowerment of the individual ... That's what we are seeing throughout the world today."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2012president; change; elections; indiatodayconclave; obama; palin
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To: EternalVigilance
I find your tagline to be highly ironic, considering the fact that... Mrs. Palin thinks that states should decide the abortion question.

So, you've decided to change tactics, since you can't browbeat me with the LOST letter? I have posted a vanity on the latter, asking for help from FReepers who are experts in international law and treaties. We will find out.

And no, Sarah Palin is not an oathbreaker. She is not saying that states accord rights. It is disingenuous for you to suggest that.

81 posted on 03/21/2011 7:35:26 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: curth

Pretty much exactly in line with the usual McCain Republican talking points.

There isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between her position and McCain’s. He says he doesn’t support amnesty too.

Do you know anyone who believes him?

All they’ve done is play with words. But a pathway to citizenship IS amnesty. Every thinking conservative knows this.


82 posted on 03/21/2011 7:37:50 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pay heed to your principled position and you won't have to worry about your political position.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Univision October 2008

Nice try. No proof of a special path to citizenship here.

And notice at the end, she says immigrants needs to "follow the rules". In other words, "Get in line".

You're just throwing things up against the wall to see what sticks.

83 posted on 03/21/2011 7:38:30 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: backwoods-engineer
So, you've decided to change tactics, since you can't browbeat me with the LOST letter?

There's nothing else to say about it. She supports it. Conservatives, in other words those who care about our national sovereignty, don't.

84 posted on 03/21/2011 7:39:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pay heed to your principled position and you won't have to worry about your political position.)
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To: Libloather
"I don't think that there needs to be a rush still to get out there as a declared candidate," she said.

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Despite that the wait seems endless, I think she's making the right decision here.

85 posted on 03/21/2011 7:40:19 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: backwoods-engineer
You're just throwing things up against the wall to see what sticks.

No. I'm simply giving you her own words, and watching you try to deny them. It would be rather entertaining if it wasn't so sad, and indicative of such a serious widespread problem within what is called conservatism.

86 posted on 03/21/2011 7:41:21 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pay heed to your principled position and you won't have to worry about your political position.)
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To: curth; Lakeshark

Thanks for jumping in, guys. I was starting to feel a little alone in the battle.


87 posted on 03/21/2011 7:43:06 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: EternalVigilance
No. I'm simply giving you her own words, and watching you try to deny them.

Really? Then why didn't you deny her other words, the ones curth posted? The ones that seem to state a position 180 degrees from your assertions about her (amnesty queen)?

You try to make yourself out to be neutral and above the fray and fact based, when in truth you are just another Palin hater using any weapon you have against her, and giving her absolutely no benefit of the doubt.

88 posted on 03/21/2011 7:49:02 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: backwoods-engineer; curth
EV, much like pissant simply has an agenda.

His inability to highlight her clear and consistant anti-illegal immigration stance is telling. He doesn't credit her for being the first major conservative figure to jump in on the side of Gov Jan Brewer. She has consistently defended Arizona on the new law, and she has consistently said we have to stop illegal immigration now.

He's just a party hack and will go to great lengths to tear down others to bolster his party.

89 posted on 03/21/2011 7:49:24 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: backwoods-engineer
She is not saying that states accord rights. It is disingenuous for you to suggest that.

How so? To say that this is "up to the states" is to say that if they so choose they can allow abortion. That means the most important right of all is alienable, not unalienable.

And it's a violation of explicit imperative constitutional requirements as well.

"No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law."

"No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Her position is also in direct conflict with her own party's platform, which has contained the Reagan pro-life plank since 1984, which recognizes the personhood of unborn children and their protection by the Fourteenth Amendment.

90 posted on 03/21/2011 7:53:03 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pay heed to your principled position and you won't have to worry about your political position.)
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To: Lakeshark
IIRC,deeper than that, the animosity goes back before 08.

Seems she caused him grief with her policies as Gov prior to her nomination.

91 posted on 03/21/2011 7:54:12 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: going hot
IIRC,deeper than that, the animosity goes back before 08. Seems she caused him grief with her policies as Gov prior to her nomination.

Really? So is he an AK resident? Can you point me to a specific thread?

92 posted on 03/21/2011 7:56:29 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: All

Interview with Lars Larson on 12/3/09:
LARS: The amnesty proposal that was defeated in Congress — in your view, was that amnesty for illegals and would you back amnesty for a path to citizenship, as the current president calls it?
SARAH PALIN: No, I’m not for amnesty. Let’s ratchet this down quite simply to remember what we’re referring to. Illegal aliens are called “illegal” for a reason. We need to secure our borders and I am not for amnesty. And there are humane ways to deal with the 11-13 million illegal aliens who are in our country right now, but if they’re not going to follow the rules, they need to get out.


93 posted on 03/21/2011 7:57:03 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (The political 2012 is here....Let's get it done !)
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To: Lakeshark
EV, much like pissant simply has an agenda.

My agenda is nothing like pissant's. That's just silly. For God's sake, he was banned after a day-long argument with me over core conservative principles, the principles I am advocating here and have always advocated on FR for over a decade.

94 posted on 03/21/2011 7:57:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pay heed to your principled position and you won't have to worry about your political position.)
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To: rbmillerjr
but if they’re not going to follow the rules, they need to get out.

Whether they should get out is not the question. The question is whether her policies would force them to get out.

Can you point us to a link that shows her calling for the deportation of all foreign nationals who have entered our country illegally?

95 posted on 03/21/2011 7:59:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pay heed to your principled position and you won't have to worry about your political position.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

I would have to muddle through a great many posts, but I will try.


96 posted on 03/21/2011 8:03:17 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: EternalVigilance
My agenda is nothing like pissant's. That's just silly. For God's sake, he was banned after a day-long argument with me over core conservative principles, the principles I am advocating here and have always advocated on FR for over a decade. Your self-centered streak is showing. pissant's zot had to do with his nasty mouth, not his discussion with you.
97 posted on 03/21/2011 8:04:02 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: EternalVigilance
My agenda is nothing like pissant's. That's just silly. For God's sake, he was banned after a day-long argument with me over core conservative principles, the principles I am advocating here and have always advocated on FR for over a decade.

Your self-centered streak is showing. pissant's zot had to do with his nasty mouth, not his discussion with you.

98 posted on 03/21/2011 8:04:12 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: going hot
Considering none of his candidates have ever governed anything, I can understand why she might cause him grief.

It's easy to pretend you're in the arena and criticize when you can't even muster 1/4% of the conservative population to vote for your candidate.

99 posted on 03/21/2011 8:05:00 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

Is EV a big shot in the Libertarian Party? What party?


100 posted on 03/21/2011 8:08:52 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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