Posted on 03/14/2011 5:27:49 PM PDT by gandalftb
Would be nice to have real actual televised live camcorder at these plants. Or are there? And what about these workers? How many have camera phones?
If the spike’s from noble metals, it’ll drop quickly. I haven’t been able to determine that yet.
Thanks. I'm attempting to put reason back into the equation.
But I'm beginning to wonder about the sanity of people in general. Reason has been lost.
Of the two possibilities, Core melting is the good one.
Fuel meltdown is the bad one.
"Even in Chernobyl, Kiev at 50 miles from the plant was entirely unaffected."Saying it was ENTIRELY unaffected is intellectually dishonest. What are you, doing damage control for TEPCO, or just plain good ole denial?
“Radiation is feared”
IOW, they don’t know whether there actually *is* a radiation leak, they don’t know where the explosion occurred.
They don’t know anything.
AIT - meant to mention the other day - I’m glad that you’re OK.
From everything I have read the water drowned the on-site generators and the secondary hookups for truck-based generators were flooded as well. By the time they got the second set of generators connected the battery backups were depleted and water had stopped flowing.
I’ve been through 6’s all the way from five miles to 150 miles from the epicenter. I’ll testify that 150 is better.
This is what is going on in a nut shell, you guys cannot handle losing control of this situation. That manifests itself as you idiotically stating everything is okay as Nuclear Reactor buildings explode.
“With the budget they had, I can think of many fail safe simple designs that would prevent this”
Yeah but did you think of them 20-30 years ago when they were built?
You said what I meant, better than I did. I didn't mean they didn't guard against tsunamis at all, but rather that they only did what was economical, which is to ignore the ones you can't afford to protect against.
Every design engineer, including myself, who has had to design a defense against a threat of unknown size, has to decide, "Well, we can afford to defend against THIS much, but if nature throws more than that at us, we fold."
Economics has to win against over-design, or else the design never gets built. Unfortunately, in the case of 500-year events, over-design could still have been insufficient. This was one heck of a tsunami.
Not so much loss of sanity, but loss of responsibility - in mindlessly spreading fear rumors and speculation - and the ability to not panic.
Yup, the generators quit when swamped by the Tsunami. When that happened, the batteries cut in. They worked ‘til exhausted eight hours or so later. The plant stops producing power when it’s “scrammed”, thus the need for external power as soon as the quake hit.
Precisely what I have been trying to tell you now for about 3 days. They have no clue to know what is going on inside the reactor. Absolutely no clue at all. We had to wait 5 years to learn that TMI had suffered a significant partial meltdown. In that scenario, it is always prudent to assume the worse. Why would you assume the best if you knew no one on the planet had a clue ?
Really? Hmmmmm...and SF is saturated with hippies, yippies, lefties, socisalists, gays, lesbians, etc., as well as being a demoRAT hotbed, right? Hmmmmm...interesting!
Amazing how some people on FR seem to be the modern technology version of cargo cultists or something. Anyone interested in or presenting actual news are called panickers, paranoia obsessed, etc.
It’s quite an eye-opener.
I’m gonna get me a cow, slather it with barbecue sauce, and hang out on the east side of it ‘til the cloud blows through. Good eatin’!
So news from TEPCO is mere rumors and speculation?
BREAKING NEWS: TEPCO admits possibility of meltdown at Fukushima reactors (09:29)
FLASH: Fukushima’s No. 2 reactor container damaged, radiation leak feared (09:41)
http://www.kyodonews.jp/english/
Not going Chernobyl over and over again is different from saying everything is ok.
as Nuclear Reactor buildings explode.
You do understand this is quite different than "Reactor Explodes" as the headline would imply, yes?
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