Little Jameeeeseeee7777, they guy who posted this thread, would vote against presidential eligibility laws with glee.
I would hate for the conservative presidential candidate with the best chance of defeating Barack Hussein Obama II in 2012 to be a person who happened to be born in a state that has a current Democratic governor who might refuse to issue a long form birth certificate to that candidate; which could keep him or her off the ballot in some states.
Whatever a state says is an official record of birth will work in every other state.
Article Four/Section One would make the above impossible.
Nah we don't believe you BOt.
A case in point by arguing this BS.
I know that the Full Faith and Credit clause of the US Constitution will prevail and any official proof of birth that any state authorizes will be accepted by every other state or the District of Columbia
You or any other leftist BOTs would not have any standing to sue in a court of law unless you are the candidate who was denied to be put on a presidential state ballot.
The lastest BS spin you are being feed. LoL.
Don't worry Troll-BOt, that is not going to happen anytime soon. Because any real conservative would be happy to show his birth certificate in court (as he likely has one or two on file) or to any state, or sign any document stating he has 2 citizen parents so to be placed on a state ballot.
And if he would be denied by some hair-brained liberal Demo Gov after providing legitimate credentials and bonafides, or some home state dingbat, libural Gov - LOL again! - refused to provide him any of his personal records, he would easily sue and win in court because he would have standing. And any denial of records for a would be conservative presidential candidate by a liburuul Dingbat gov, duh Gov would get slam dunked in the world of public opinion.
You sure dream up some nonsensical BS.
From my booklet:
(Argument): “Full Faith and Credit/Short-Form is Good Enough for Passport Office.” Others say that if a COLB is good enough to get a passport it should be good enough for anything, and that not accepting another state’s COLB at face value is a violation of the Full Faith and Credit Clause.
That’s not what the Dept of Health and Human Services Inspector General said in a 1999 report (19) on birth certificate fraud. That report specifically recommends that states NOT take any single document at face value because it is so easy to get authentic documents from fraudulent documents – especially since half of the state registrars reported that someone in their system had been caught falsifying records. Each state is allowed to decide what kind of evidence it requires for specific claims and is strongly encouraged to always require more than one form of proof for claims, as well as implementing means to detect fraudulent documents.
An expert in electronic document fraud adds (20)that fraud is so very much easier to accomplish now that records are stored electronically, and can be manipulated remotely by hackers – in which case what is printed out electronically would seem legitimate to anybody looking at it. The only way to know the fraud that had happened would be by looking at the detailed history of the record, the embedded transaction log for the electronic record. It’s harder to fake an original long-form than an electronic record, because a fake paper record involves physically replacing the record in the Vital Records Office, whereas an electronic record can be altered remotely and leave no signs of tampering.
It is known that the passport records of John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama were all illegally accessed (21) in early 2008 – Obama’s 3 separate times. Several investigations of the breaches have been done (internal DOS investigation mentioned here (22) and OIG report here (23)), but according to the descriptions none of them seemed to involve checking to see whether those passport files had been altered. All were concerned about the security of the system and how the breach happened or internal disciplinary issues, not the potential result of the breaches.
Imagine that the only birth or citizenship record for Obama was in his passport file, and that file had been accessed by “birthers” who changed his record to say he was born in Indonesia. Checking the genuineness of records that could be compromised is a necessary protection for everyone – especially in a politically-charged climate where the stakes are high and opponents abundant.
Also from my booklet, which might be good for you to just read altogether. It’s at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/why-lb-654-is-needed-revised1.pdf :
(Argument:) Unavailability of long-form birth certificates. Some say there are states which don’t disclose long-form birth certificates.
First off, this bill provides alternative forms of documentation for that situation, if it arises.
Secondly, the claims that no long-forms are available are largely hype. For instance, in October of 2008 the Hawaii DOH claimed that they no longer disclose long-form birth certificates but there is video (17) of a woman at the HDOH office in the summer of 2010 ordering a certified copy of a long-form BC and being told that she would receive it in 2 weeks. All the HDOH claims amount to is the fact that unless you request a long-form the default is to get a COLB. Common knowledge to everybody in Hawaii, but
nobody in the media bothered to report it; it only surfaced because of diligent BLOGGERS, who are steadfastly ridiculed by the so-called “credible” media.
Thirdly, even in electronic form, the data is stored and can be put to paper. The CDC has a model birth certificate (18) which contains all the items from the old long-form birth certificates and more, and the states all have that model form or something basically equivalent, so they can report that information to the CDC. They collect and store that information. Whether the information is stored on paper or electronically, that information can be disclosed on paper and certified by Vital Records Office staff. At the federal level, FOIA and The Privacy Act allow individuals to get copies of their own records, and most states have similar provisions, so even if the records are not routinely issued, they can be accessed through FOIA/Privacy Act requests .
The full faith and credit clause requires a manner for proving the legitimacy of the public records of the various states. Obama even voted for a federal requirement in 2005 that issuing agencies have to verify the validity of birth records. So far, Hawaii has not done this for Obama's jpg. You know this and pretend otherwise.