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Then take a job in the DREADED, HATED, HORRIFIC - PRIVATE SECTOR if you CAN'T make the cash in the University system, ya Hosers!

It's not Rocket Science! And I'm not even a Chemist! I'm not even a Rocket Scientist! LOL!

Dorks.

And to that 24 year old 'Grad Student' who still suckles off the teat of his mama & papa and has NEVER had to 'think' about these things before? MAN (the Ef) UP!

1 posted on 02/23/2011 8:51:16 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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Son, Be a Dentist! :) (Not a Chemist!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOtMizMQ6oM


2 posted on 02/23/2011 8:54:08 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

If you have kids at the University of Wisconsin, U- Wisconsin Milwaukee, U-Wisconsin Green Bay, etc. or the Madison or Milwaukee Public schools I would suggest pulling your kids out of these Hell holes immediately!!


3 posted on 02/23/2011 8:55:14 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Sure, anyone who lives off the government via taxes is scared. Gee imagine folks having to fork over $80.00/month for health care.

These idiots really feel victimized huh?
SHUT EM DOWN


4 posted on 02/23/2011 8:57:14 PM PST by JohnD9207 (John McCain is a proud Ted Kennedy conservative!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Chemists Join Wisconsin Budget Battle [Chemists? Hello? Straw-Grasping!]

Can the Buggy Whip Manufacturers Union be far behind?

5 posted on 02/23/2011 8:58:00 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"This is not really about money. This is about power and control," says University of Wisconsin, Madison, professor Robert J. Hamers. Not about money, right, you stupid fartsmeller. Tell ya what, you keep the power and control and the State will keep the money. Lets see who gets hungry first.
6 posted on 02/23/2011 9:00:27 PM PST by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

While teaching assistants are not given state insurance in most places they are covered under policies designed to protect students which they all are. When I was a TA many moons ago I never even considered that it was anything but a help to me that I had the job. Ungrateful little shiites.


7 posted on 02/23/2011 9:02:04 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“It’s not clear at all what’s going to happen.”

I know what’s next. An announcement that in 5 minutes all the protestors are going to hold their breath til they turn blue. After that, they’ll all roll up in their blankies and take their afternoon naps just before recess.


11 posted on 02/23/2011 9:10:00 PM PST by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

13 posted on 02/23/2011 9:11:08 PM PST by RC one (Change we can believe in! Yes we can! FUBO!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Most chemists working in Wisconsin’s state university system make lower salaries than their counterparts in the private sector...”

Those that can, do. Those that can’t, teach.

And those who can’t teach want collective bargaining rights.


14 posted on 02/23/2011 9:13:53 PM PST by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Chemists ast UW might want to tread lightly on this. It was just 40 years ago last August when Dow Chemical Company held job interviews on campus - an even that somehow tipped radical leftie nutjob Karleton Armstrong over the edge, and gave him the inspiration to use a 2000 pound homemade bomb to blow up Sterling Hall, killing one and injuring three others.

Chemistry and radical politics don’t mix.


15 posted on 02/23/2011 9:14:58 PM PST by bigbob (-)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

We can safely assume that these “chemists” are all public employee teachers at tax-supported institutions, not normal people having real jobs.


16 posted on 02/23/2011 9:16:58 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

There should be no public sector unions at all.

Private unions, no problem with.

The private union folks will tell you they are needed to counter the company’s greedy bosses and owners.

Well, if that’s true, that the purpose of unions is to counter the employer’s greed, then that therefore means public sector unions exist to coounter the greed of THEIR employer - the citizens of the state....?

And that is what is going to convince most non-union citizens that the real problem here is with the public sector unions, and their mindset.

The public sector unions are the ones that are greedy. They wnat to have the power NO OTHER taxpayer has, to FORCE their neighbors to give them great salaries and benefits and such pro-union work rules that no private worker could ever have, much less ask for with a straight face.

The states are broke. The people in these states are already taxed to death. They are hurting. And these public unions are trying to drum up sympathy as slave victims, when they earn more than the average private worker, have much better healthcare plans, and hardly have to pay anything for them or their retirements, because their fellow citizens are footing the bill for them. And we’re supposed to swallow the line that we, the citizens that employ them, are greedy for wanting them to pay a small segment of their retirement and helathcare plans, and give up collective bargaining PRIVILEGES (they are not rights, but privileges) that they’d use to recover anything cut out of salaries?

This is why it ain’t flying with people. You can’t get sympathy from people when your actions and your basis for existing is because you believe your employer (the citizens of the state) is greedy. Not when those ‘greedy’ people make considerably less than you do on average, pay more for their lesser health care plans, don’t have 100% matching of their retirement plan, and don’t have civil service protection laws protecting their own jobs.


19 posted on 02/23/2011 9:27:17 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Most private chemists do not have tenure (ie can’t be fired).

Most private chemists do not have their companies paying 100% of their retirement plans.

Most private chemists do not get the summer off. (These univeristy chemists can work for companies in the summer, and do.)

Most private chemists don’t have most or all of their health insurance premiums paid by their companies.

Most private chemists are not covered by very protective civil service laws, and in fact, can be fired for just about any reason, at any time.

Cry me an effing river.


21 posted on 02/23/2011 9:48:46 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

teaching.....assistants....unionized....what...?


22 posted on 02/23/2011 10:08:19 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Which has more wrinkles? Helen Thomas' face or Lawrence O'Donnells' panties?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The International Brotherhood of Jazz Dancers, Pastry Chefs and Nuclear Technicians doesn’t look so far-fetched anymore, does it? (from The Simpsons, Last Exit to Springfield)


24 posted on 02/23/2011 10:20:54 PM PST by mountainbunny
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Most chemists working in Wisconsin’s state university system make lower salaries than their counterparts in the private sector, and affordable benefits go hand in hand with scholarly freedom as selling points of the job, he says.”

I am highly skeptical about this assertion. Perhaps it was true 10 years ago. The value of job security and work conditions have increased because of the recession. Academic labor markets are very insular, isolated from normal market conditions. The market for business faculty is a good example. Business faculty in many disciplines used to have many opportunities in the private sector. Private sector offered higher compensation driving up faculty salaries. As a result, there were relatively few job applicants. The situation is now reversed. Changes in financial markets and heavy doses of regulation have reduced opportunities. Faculty openings draw hundreds of applicants yet faculty salaries continue to increase. In my field, new Ph.D. graduates cannot find academic positions. Yet starting salaries are perhaps higher than my considerable salary ($135k+). New professors could be hired at half my salary. I would have a difficult time to find a new position.

The faculty senate should be sanctioned for supporting walkouts. Anyone not teaching should be fined. There is no provision in any contract for not working because of political disagreements.


25 posted on 02/23/2011 10:35:34 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Where do alchemists stand on this?


26 posted on 02/23/2011 10:36:30 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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