Posted on 02/23/2011 9:11:18 AM PST by Islander7
“this will come up and be an issue for those unenrolled/independent voters that will be needed to make or break a candidate”
A majority of which probably didn’t or haven’t yet graduated from college (not that I have statistics or anything; I merely assume).
I saw that too. I could not believe how stupid she made herself appear. A ‘doctor’s office’ in the middle of a protest?
In college, students are referred to as 'undergraduates' or 'graduates'. Those that are graduates have graduated and are pursuing graduate studies.
Those that have not graduated are undergraduates and are pursuing undergraduate studies.
The degrees to undergrads have become commonly referred to as undegraduate degrees since the degrees are conferred on undergraduates who have completed an undergraduate course of study.
Is it totally clear now?
Implying or not, this seems like grounds for investigation. ZERO tolerance and all that ...
Give us a break.
He is a governor being a governor. Stop trying to make stuff into something it isn’t.
a little trivia, people don’t graduate, the college/university graduates them...
correct teminology..I was graduated but in common use is I graduated....
LOL!
As it is, I am begging for some fresh blood and the removal of the lifetime leeches that have attached themselves to the giant teet that is Washington.
However, it doesn't mean the degrees or education are worthless...it means the people are.
True. The ruler is graduated by the graduator. However, under present usage (for many decades) the intransient form has also been considered correct terminology.
Niether did George Washington, Abe Lincoln, and one of the Rosevelts, I’m not sure.
“Is it totally clear now?”
It was always clear, and totally stupid.
“In college, students are referred to as ‘undergraduates’ or ‘graduates’. Those that are graduates have graduated and are pursuing graduate studies”
Duh.
“Those that have not graduated are undergraduates and are pursuing undergraduate studies.”
Right, and once they’ve graduated they’re naturally not undergrads anymore.
“The degrees to undergrads have become commonly referred to as undegraduate degrees since the degrees are conferred on undergraduates who have completed an undergraduate course of study.”
I don’t need an etymology lesson. I don’t care where the phrase came from. Whatever we call students without degrees, we absolutely oughtn’t to have any such thing as an “undergraduate degree.” It’s oxymoronic, like “accidentally on purpose” or “icy hot.” They can be clever or good for a laugh, but aren’t to be taken seriously.
Perhaps in many cases colloquialisms derived from colloquialisms are permissable even when they don’t make any sense. But to me, when something so obviously illogical and so pervasive (imagine the sheer number of times the phgase is uttered annually) passes by the supposed gatekeepers of high culture, it is embarrassing. If academics were intelligent, as we expect them to be, the phrase would never have become common parlance.
“However, under present usage (for many decades) the intransient form has also been considered correct terminology.”
Maybe in the intransitive sense, like saying, “I graduated from X university and went on to Y for postgraduate studies.” But in the also commonly used transitive form, e.g. to receive a degeree from X university, it is definitely wrong, or at best what they call a “problem.” If it’s acceptable, that’s only because these days either people think there is no such thing as a general mistake, or people are too lazy to correct general mistakes. Like, for instance, stopping people from using the nonsense phrase “undergraduate degree.”
“phgase” = phrase
What doesn't make sense is that you took my fun post seriously.
“and one of the Rosevelts, I’m not sure”
Wrong. Both were graduated from Harvard before dropping out of Columbia Law School. The first because he got a governmeran for office, the second because he passed the bar exam.
The first because he got a governmeran for office = The first because he ran for office
You brought up old memories. I had similar discussions when I was in college decades ago.
Thank you!
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