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To: DoughtyOne; greyfoxx39
If Beck is doing good works, that is from God. The Evil One doesn't cause people to do good works.

A beneficial outcome for one helped doesn't define any full picture of "works."

The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart. (1 Samuel 16:7)

People seek the "outward appearance" of a good deed; the Lord might see the selfish reasons for boomerang reasons as to the reasons that motivate their actions.

For example: Mormons say "good works" will be the springboard for them to be able to grow up into full-grown gods. If good works are meant to benefit them -- to qualify for godhood -- those works no longer are defined by God as "good"...at least as far as the "heart" assessment is concerned.

Let's face it: If you're auditioning to become a god, ya better believe people are going to be on their best outward behavior!

...if a family member of yours is laying out on the highway and Beck comes along and stops to help, they should ask him what his religious beliefs are, before they let him help. And if he answers honestly, they should tell him to go away without helping

Your hypothetical doesn't include what capacity he may get the "OK" to help. The family might...
...ask him to call "911" and let someone with real expertise help...
...or warn him not to initiate moving the victim if certain back or neck injuries have been detected...
...or ask him to flag down drivers or help navigate traffic...
...or any number of things.

'Tis a difference 'tween having a "helping" role -- and taking the lead saviorhood role.

And your analogy just won't work re: pinpointing him as some lone lead saviorhood role...'Cause, believe me, whatever emergency situation we have in this country, he's not the only on-the-scene attendant or Good Samaritan poised to "help."

His voice may indeed be a help on some things; it doesn't mean we've turned over all rescue operations to him! The Good Samaritan in the Bible was a one-time rescuer for one incident. He didn't go back to town, hand them an experience-based resume', and claim he should permanently take over all future rescue operations within the region!

We do have a choice as to how much responsibility we're going to accord him to "help" the victim...because even if part or most of his "diagnosis" might be correct, his "therapeutic" suggestions might not be fully operational...or his suggestions to move the victim "out of the way" might not be fully sound given the victim's status.

If you're looking for Beck as the culture revivalist; sorry, that's a divine undertaking -- even if God uses men. And while God in the Bible and in history utilized people who weren't His...and certainly God can use Beck...the bottom line as to who God uses -- and especially to what degree -- ultimately comes down to who is going to get the glory.

Since Beck is a Joseph Smith disciple, and we know Smith "lived for glory" even by Brigham Young's admission (D&C 135:6), then God usually restrains the self-glory hounds at some point.

God's promises are sure: “I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another" (Isaiah 42:8)
AND: "I will not yield my glory to another" (Isaiah 48:11)

371 posted on 02/23/2011 1:07:56 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Wow, that was a bit much. This is quite simple. The guy isn’t selling Mormonism. He is delivering information. Nobody else is delivering that information. End of story.

If someone else wants to step up to the plate, and deliver the goods, I’ve got no qualms about them doing so. Beck does a better job of delivering the goods than anyone else right now.

I’m not going to look that gift-horse in the mouth and say, “Ah, no thanks.” Sorry, not gonna do it.


388 posted on 02/23/2011 6:59:15 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Here's the proof of Obama's U. S. citizenship: " " Good enough for our 3 branches...)
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