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.223 Remington vs. 5.56 NATO: What You Don’t Know Could Hurt You
Human Events ^ | 02/15/2011 | Richard Johnson

Posted on 02/21/2011 7:37:41 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Clint N. Suhks
He said they use .308 bolt and M-16 exclusively unless they need to shoot through a car or cinder block then they use 50mm.

Yep. The 50mm should do the job ..


61 posted on 02/22/2011 10:58:20 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: HP8753

Heh, heh. Yeah, a two-incher will do it every time.


62 posted on 02/22/2011 11:00:17 AM PST by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: CholeraJoe

The military requirement for the bullet crime, like the primer crime, makes the military case about a hair longer after it is fired. That is it, cutting the primer crimp out and trimming to length fixes it. But it is much easier to reload by buying new brass. I shoot a 222 a lot, it is much more accurate, 788 Remington long barrel, tack driver.


63 posted on 02/22/2011 11:01:39 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: neverdem

For safety’s sake, you should use 7.62*39. :-)


64 posted on 02/22/2011 11:03:32 AM PST by Salo
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I have a couple of Bushy’s and a lefty Stag for my son who is a southpaw. Couple of Armalite’s (AR-10’s) as well. Good weapons all and properly set up.

You’re right about stepping up and buying ia quality weapon of you don’t have any skill/interest in gunsmithing.

I’ve built a couple of AR’s for fun (out of stuff available from various manufacturers) and they were OK weapons but never performed as well as the factory stuff. Converted them to .22LR for plinking.


65 posted on 02/22/2011 11:09:15 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: neverdem
...although some are stamped 5.56 Rem on the receiver – are manufactured with .223 chambers.

Lower receivers don't have a clue what's barreled on top of them. Look for barrel stampings.

66 posted on 02/22/2011 11:24:18 AM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: JayVee
Now the Spanish Mauser 95’s are another issue.

I thought it was '93's. The 1916's that were converted to 7.62 CETME(from 7x57), post Civil War. I've shot 7.62 Nato in mine. Difficilt to lift the bolt, and it hits high. Reloaded for it with 110 grain light loads, but haven't fired it.

67 posted on 02/22/2011 11:31:50 AM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: SIDENET

Meh... Hobbled 3.08 is still a hobbled .308. If you want to sling a bullet that big, go with either an M1A or an LR-308.


68 posted on 02/22/2011 11:33:07 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Ouderkirk

Yes we have some plinkers also. Guns are fun.


69 posted on 02/22/2011 11:52:20 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Meh... Hobbled 3.08 is still a hobbled .308. If you want to sling a bullet that big, go with either an M1A or an LR-308.

I sure likes me some Mosin Nagant, though.

That's not to say, however, that I don't have a M1A purchase in the works.

;-)

70 posted on 02/22/2011 1:12:02 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: SIDENET

Hhmm... Now there’s a thought. Can an M1A be re-chambered for the 7.62x54R and would it have a positive impact on long range accuracy?


71 posted on 02/22/2011 1:29:37 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Dead Corpse

Don’t know, but it would be a heck of a lot cheaper to shoot.


72 posted on 02/22/2011 1:34:51 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: neverdem

Sounds like a chamber cast is the only way to know for sure.


73 posted on 02/22/2011 1:39:58 PM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: SIDENET
The differences in case dimensions and LOA are pretty close. The ones I'd be most worried about are LOA (about 7mm diff), bullet diameter (true 7.62 vs 7.82), and base diameter (about .4mm diff).

Would there be enough machining room and stroke adjustment to get the action to shuck the extra 7mm length?

Would the extra case capacity translate to a bit more velocity/accuracy? Could tighten up the twist rate, but then short range accuracy might be impacted due to the bullet waiting longer to sleep...

/ballistic nerdgasm

74 posted on 02/22/2011 1:43:08 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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