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To: philman_36
There were no hearings to determine Sen. McCain's eligibility.

Informative reply on topic... Remember, trolls aren't offended by being proved wrong. Their goal is to confuse as many as they can.

Thanks Philman_36. I've seen that claim before, of course, and seen it in the context of SB 2678 and SR 511, both being hearings about McCain's eligibility, and in the Senate archives. We, and I include myself, sometimes assume that the audience, if there is one, has heard false claims and heard them dismissed with facts. A wise tactic of the left is to repeat messages, true or not, until they become accepted for their familiarity, so responses to trolls are helpful, even if it is the tenth time. I believe there were more than five hearings about McCain's eligibility, and know of two lawsuits. That, of course, doesn't prove that he was or was not eligible.

Mario Apuzzo makes a plausible argument supporting McCain's eligibility in comments in his "44 Presidents" article. He argues that jus sanguinis prevailed, and that children of military would be reputed natural born. His suggestion might provide the basis for a Supreme Court interpretation. But it seems likely that disqualification of Obama would have generated a challenge of McCain, particularly after SB2678, which was irrelevant had there not been clear questions in the Senate about McCain. SB2678 failed, of course, and had no legal validity, since Congress can't amend the Constitution, but it may have been a veiled threat to Republicans saying, in effect, "we know of the problem so don't dare raise the fact of Obama's father's non-citizenship."

But the most audacious propaganda was Sen Res 511, having every Senator, including Obama, sign agreement that to be a natural born citizen requires two citizen parents. This made every Republican Senator complicit in covering up the ineligibility of a presidential candidate. It may have been the reason that Cheney, as President of the Senate, never got around to asking each Senator if he knew of any reason not to confirm Obama (not an exact quotation). Cheney was very smart and very careful. One might have assumed, watching the proceedings, that Pelosi interrupted the procedure ordained by Senate rules by encouraging appalause; but upon reflection, Cheney may have been protecting the senators, all of whom signed SR 511, and all of whom certainly knew about Obama's father and the dreams inherited by his son.

191 posted on 02/19/2011 6:34:55 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding
But the most audacious propaganda was Sen Res 511, having every Senator, including Obama, sign agreement that to be a natural born citizen requires two citizen parents. This made every Republican Senator complicit in covering up the ineligibility of a presidential candidate. It may have been the reason that Cheney, as President of the Senate, never got around to asking each Senator if he knew of any reason not to confirm Obama (not an exact quotation). Cheney was very smart and very careful.

Thanks for the plausible explanation to Cheney's inaction. It's the first I've seen. Up until now, nothing has made sense of his inaction which has been very disappointing.

Thanks again.

197 posted on 02/19/2011 8:42:44 PM PST by Balata (What part of 'WE THE PEOPLE' don't you understand Obama?)
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To: Spaulding
But the most audacious propaganda was Sen Res 511, having every Senator, including Obama, sign agreement that to be a natural born citizen requires two citizen parents.

S. Res. 511 was no such agreement.

Obama has always acknowledged the foreign citizenship of his father. Indeed, he seems rather proud of his worthless daddy, who, fueled by ethanol, managed simultaneously to take a clunker off the road and himself out of the world, no death panel needed, on 24 November 1982. Which is too bad, because BHO, Sr., were he still throwing his weight around Kenya when his son became the Won, would doubtless have been a rich source of entertainment.

198 posted on 02/19/2011 9:33:33 PM PST by cynwoody
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