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To: Rational Thought

Thank you for suggesting this. I just sent this to him:

Hi, Jonathan. I wanted to give you some of the facts that have been documented already but which the general public doesn’t know, largely because the media won’t report the facts (possibly because the media heads were threatened if they reported on it, according to a signed statement by an on-air personality who was personally threatened and other corroborating evidence. See http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373 .

Though the HDOH has made public statements about seeing Obama’s “original birth certificate” and “vital records verifying that Obama was born in Hawaii”, none of the statements have ever said that what they saw was LEGALLY VALID. The HDOH has repeatedly told me that they cannot reveal the legal status of the records they have. However, in making legal responses to FOIA requests, they have revealed that Obama was charged a fee to amend his birth certificate in 2006 - which according to Hawaii law (HRS 338-17) renders the BC legally invalid.

This also reveals that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery because amendments are required to be noted on COLB’s but the Factcheck COLB, printed in 2007, does not note the 2006 amendment. The HDOH has actually also indirectly confirmed that the certificate number and “date filed” on the Factcheck COLB are incompatible.

So in 2 different ways the HDOH has confirmed that what Obama presented to the public is in fact a forgery, and that they were aware of that all along. When I asked Janice Okubo directly if she would speak negatively about a COLB she knew was a forgery and report it to law enforcement, she said that she cannot reveal anything about a BC. IOW, she claims she CANNOT tell anybody - even law enforcement - if she knows that the holder of the nuclear football has committed the felony of forgery.

Your article mentioned the statement by Abercrombie that there is actually something written down in the archives (and the reporter said in a parenthetical statement that Abercrombie said there was something in the State Archive). The retention schedule for HDOH and Vital Records Office records only allows 2 kinds of records to be stored at the State Archive rather than at the HDOH office: 75-year-old Certificates of Hawaiian Birth, and registrations of foreign birth. So if Abercrombie was telling the truth and there is an HDOH notation regarding Obama’s birth, it is a registration of foreign birth.

What you didn’t mention in your article were the statements by Mike Evans on multiple radio spots, saying he had spoken to Neil Abercrombie and been told by him that he had checked the hospitals with a search warrant and there is no birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii. Hospitals don’t keep birth certificates, although they DO keep maternity/OB logs so there should still be a record of Obama’s birth at the hospital if he was born there. “Search warrant” is probably not the right legal term; more likely a subpoena from an investigative committee (especially since Abercrombie referred to an investigation taking place). But the main point is that he even CHECKED the hospitals, since a birth certificate should be kept at the HDOH office and he has the power to have his HDOH director look in those records, as Lingle said she directed Fukino to do. The HDOH director has the authority to release whatever records he/she thinks appropriate, which is the only reason Fukino could make either of her 2 public statements even though claiming that HRS 338-18a forbids her from revealing ANYTHING about vital records.

The truth of the matter is that at this point there are at least 4 reasons that Obama’s records are REQUIRED to be disclosed.

1) Once a record has been published by the person whose privacy is in question, the privacy exemption to disclosure no longer exists.

2) Once the HDOH has made a public statement, all the records that the statement was based on become public records which must be disclosed.

3) If there is a “scintilla of public interest” in a record, it outweighs privacy concerns.

4) The HDOH Administrative Rules, together with UIPA (HI’s FOIA law), require the HDOH to disclose to anybody who asks for it a non-certified copy of an abbreviated certificate (COLB).

Hawaii’s AG is lying when he says that Obama’s records cannot be disclosed. In reality, Hawaii law REQUIRES them to be disclosed. Reasons 1-3 are included in OIP Opinion Letter 03-16, found at http://hawaii.gov/oip/opinionletters/opinion%2003-16.pdf . A snarky explanation of that is at http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2011/02/13/coach-june-s-jones-iii-hes-more-important-to-the-american-public-than-barrack-whats-his-name/

Hawaii officials have been breaking rules and laws for quite some time, which is why to me and many, many others this issue isn’t really about Barack Obama at all, but about the lawlessness it took to get him where he’s at. I’ve documented some of the ethics and rule/law violations by Hawaii officials at my blog at http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com .

I’ve also documented there that the stories we were told about the birth announcement images were not true. We were told those images came from several different independent sources who got the copies from the Hawaii State Library and from somebody at the Advertiser office, but in reality the Advertiser images are all identical even though supposedly taken from different microfilms. And the Star-Bulletin images are not only identical images but actually identical SCANS - even though they were supposedly taken by different people at different places. Furthermore, those images are NOT from the Hawaii State Library, because prominent scratches in the online images were not on the microfilms 20 months later. You can see the documentation for all this at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2011/02/10/revised-article/ .

When all this is boiled down, Abercrombie and the HDOH have confirmed that there is no legally valid birth record for Obama in Hawaii. Hawaii is REQUIRED to disclose whatever they’ve got but they refuse, just as they’ve refused to obey a multitude of laws and rules. And we were lied to about where the birth announcement images came from, which makes their provenance and everything about them suspect.

Furthermore, both the Hawaii Democratic Party and Nancy Pelosi knew there were problems with Obama’s eligibility. The HDP refused to certify his constitutional eligibility and Pelosi perjured herself to swear that he was Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS even though she had never even ASKED to see his records or to receive a letter of verification for his birth facts. Even if she had asked she could not have received anything that would have justified her sworn statement of Obama’s eligibility because HI has no legally valid birth record for Obama.

Everything I’ve said here is documented on my blog. I encourage you to go to http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com and look around. My “Welcome” post is intended to summarize and point you to the posts where the claims are documented.

The media will not touch any of this, but the public IS being informed of the genuine facts in spite of media inaccuracy (and their refusals to correct their inaccuracies) and ridicule. Facts are powerful things, and our leaders and media ignore them at their peril. The public increasingly knows that the Emperor is naked, and those of us with no elite reputation to protect are not afraid to come right out and say it.

Your article told part of the story. The revealing part is the rest of the story. If you have the courage to reveal the rest of the story I would be willing to work with you on providing documentation. You can e-mail me any time.

Thank you.
Nellie AKA Butterdezillion


65 posted on 02/16/2011 8:42:07 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Awesome response! Kudos and Shekoyach!


84 posted on 02/16/2011 9:32:54 AM PST by bvw
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To: butterdezillion

Let us know if you get a response. I kind of doubt it. Their crimes — okay I’ll call such deliberate ignorance of of a major crime in progress a crime —are so delicious to them! You and I, we leave a bad taste in their gullets.

We are marginalized to the extreme by the delusionals. To them we are “the untouchables” of the Hindu Castes; the ‘Dalits’ or Broken People. They don’t have to hear what we say, our ‘facts’ mean nothing, we can be given no hearing in any official process.

I was once convicted of a crime because the Judge refused to accept evidence that exonerated me. That taught me something about the oppression of truth in an American courtroom, via process rules. I appealed and got a de novo hearing and was exonerated — but even that Judge refused to accept the evidence, but took my testimony as more truthful than my accusers, and maybe because I had hired a lawyer with reasonably good connections for that hearing. Sadly, in my county the law is ruled for the connected, in the case of the unconnected vs the connected. I am more connected now. But at that time I was a new resident of little evident means — like out-caste who could be ignored and scorned with impunity — and was so in a PUBLIC COURTROOM HEARING — with impunity, now I am friend (or enemy) of the most powerful in my county.

{I was accused and arrested for criminal trespass on land I to which I had a title easement, they refused to accept my land title as evidence. The crime of “defiant trespass” in my state requires mens re. Since I THOUGHT I had a right to be on that property, it didn’t meet mens re. Boy was I pissed. In the end the arresting officer came to apologize personally to me, but the initial judge ... best to say nothing.)

That these are insane times is clear in how fierce to ignore and scorn us — we who ask only to have an honest hearing on this man Obama’s bonafides — how long and continued has been that irrational reaction by the elites, how it is everywhere! Even when a majority of the public doubt his claims.

It is a social inversion. The people cry out for truth and justice, the elite are vicious and adamant in denying it.

The power of the connected often is held by, and continues in force by, the ruthless application of that connectedness against the unconnected. By that the connected come to know — stay connected! Or else, be a nothing, be ground under an uncaring wheel of the juggernaut. And nothing is as ruthless and effective as a proof of connectedness, of being among the important, than a proof that demands whole fealty to a bold lie.

Stay on that Juggernaut, you Bill O’Reilly, you Micheal Medved, you talk show hosts, you Judges and Legislators in courtrooms and chambers everywhere — or YOU rick losing YOUR membership!

Yes, we have a caste system of a sort, and a vicious and unAmerican sort it is today.

We Birthers and Tea Partiers are the lowest of all. Why should those in the GLORY of their careers, and in the mix of such grand social connections with the upper crust, care for anything we say. To them it would be most RUDE to be anything but vilely scornful to us, like one is to cockroaches. That’s *their* civility and bonhomme.


176 posted on 02/16/2011 5:19:40 PM PST by bvw
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To: butterdezillion

Glass is raised to you - what an exquisite and classy evisceration done in the name of truth!


257 posted on 02/17/2011 9:58:21 AM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture.))
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