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US admiral: Carrier killer won't stop US Navy
Associated Press ^ | Feb. 15, 2011 | ERIC TALMADGE

Posted on 02/14/2011 11:29:19 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

YOKOSUKA, Japan (AP) -- A senior U.S. Navy commander says a new "carrier killer" missile that has become a symbol of China's rising military might will not force the U.S. Navy to change the way it operates in the Pacific.

Defense analysts say the Dong Feng 21D missile could upend the balance of power in Asia, where U.S. aircraft carrier battle groups have ruled the waves since the end of World War II.

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To: Free ThinkerNY

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21 posted on 02/15/2011 5:18:28 AM PST by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: good1

“The Admirals themselves are destroying the Navy by allowing gays to serve.”

Seems to me as though it’s the politicians doing it.


22 posted on 02/15/2011 5:22:54 AM PST by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: TheThinker

What would a Navy Admiral say? “We are Doomed”?


23 posted on 02/15/2011 5:36:55 AM PST by Roklok
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To: hosepipe
Chinese sink a carrier(or anything).. we won't owe them a dime..

I wouldn't hang too much on that threat.

When Germany invaded France in WWII, France was Germany's largest trading partner.

When Japan attacked the United States, we were their largest trading partner.

Aggressive wars aren't launched by men who are being guided by reason.

24 posted on 02/15/2011 5:42:27 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The steering wheel is irrelevent once you've gone off the cliff.)
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To: Vroomfondel; SC Swamp Fox; Fred Hayek; NY Attitude; P3_Acoustic; investigateworld; lowbuck; ...
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25 posted on 02/15/2011 5:44:52 AM PST by magslinger (Samuel Colt, feminist. Making women equal to men for over 150 years.)
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To: maddog55

ASW detection is all about training. Despite all of the hoopla about how well trained our military is, the facts are: The Navy was better trained and more dedicated 20 years ago than they are now. Many sailors are just in it for the paycheck. As a 21 years Navy Vet, I can speak from experience, and we will be declining even further with openly serving gays. Women onboard ships has been a fiasco from the start, and it will get even worse when they get onboard submarines.


26 posted on 02/15/2011 5:51:58 AM PST by Roklok
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To: Roklok
What would a Navy Admiral say? "We are Doome"?


27 posted on 02/15/2011 5:57:59 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Many years ago I was following a story about a tank mounted laser missile killing system. I looked like a big searchlight mounted on an M1.....to test this thing, they fired a 155mm round from 23 miles away. This thing tracked the projectile, and shot it down with a laser beam while in flight...they did this 3 times in a row...then, suddenly, all info on this weapon system just diappeared...I would have to assume that this system is active, thereby making any and all missiles a non threat. If it can track and shoot down artillery rounds in flight, a missile is a non issue....the torpedoes are also a non issue (just because a sub surfaces anywhere on the ocean, does not mean we did not know it was there) Can a carrier be sunk? Damn right it can. I just think they are a little more protected than what meets the eye..


28 posted on 02/15/2011 6:06:45 AM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: maddog55
These are the same incident. The U.K. Daily Mail rehashed/re-reported the 2006 incident in 2007 and tried to make it look like a second incident. They caught hell over this.
29 posted on 02/15/2011 6:17:25 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: joe fonebone
...then, suddenly, all info on this weapon system just disappeared...I would have to assume that this system is active...

DEW(Directed Energy Weapons) systems in testing are not operational/deployed combat systems yet. A combat environment poses challenges that cannot be duplicated in testing, especially on the high seas.

That having been said, the Navy Labs/DARPA recently completed a successful test of what could be Holy Grail of DEW, the Free Electron Laser(FEL). The difficulty with using lasers in free space is that certain wavelengths are attenuated by the atmosphere at differing altitudes. If I understand this correctly, a laser is tuned to a fixed, specific frequency before use and the effectiveness is restricted accordingly. The FEL can be tuned on-the-fly to overcome this handicap. Not only this, as opposed to the chemical lasers of the Air Force's Airborne Laser which must have their chemicals reconstituted after twenty firings, the FEL can fire as long as there is sufficient electricity to power it. Arm a nuclear carrier with one of these powered by its reactor and it has an unlimited magazine with the potential of also being an effective satellite killer. Supersonic and even hypersonic ASMs would not stand a chance an FEL.

An interesting side note is that a laser is also known as a high-frequency photon maser, which contracts to phaser.

30 posted on 02/15/2011 7:08:46 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: Rennes Templar
What is the admiral really saying here? It is a bluff? Do we have response capabilty and he’s not letting on; or are we vulnerable, and he’s not letting on.

What he is saying is: "The Chinese think they have changed the game but they have NO idea what our game actually is. Hehehe."
31 posted on 02/15/2011 7:36:16 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: tanknetter

That is a very solid rundown.

Not only all that but if we somehow lost one carrier we would still have about a dozen to pummel anyone to dust.


32 posted on 02/15/2011 7:38:42 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: cva66snipe

Yes, but five of the six were lost in the first twelve months of the war, when the Axis were ascendent and the correct tactics and countermeasures to defend carriers had not been fully worked out. The Brits lost five carriers in WW2 (Courageous, Glorious, Ark Royal, Hermes and Eagle) and all of them were lost before mid 1942.


33 posted on 02/15/2011 7:41:34 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Kenny Bunk

The carrier probably couldn’t, but the carrier group, with its layers of anti-sub and anti-air defences, probably could. I am decidedly dubious about these Dong Feng ballistic antiship missiles. Sure they have huge range and enormous destructive power, but how on earth are they going to be able to guide them?


34 posted on 02/15/2011 7:47:15 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: tanknetter
Yorktown was killed by poor damage control tactics. She was abandoned too early, and when determined that she wasn't about to sink and re-boarded there wasn't enough time to patch the damage and get her underway before she was hit by torpedoes from a Japanese sub.

That's just plain false.

First, Yorktown survived survived 3 heavy bomb hits and was saved and returned to action due to excellent damage control. She launched strike and CAP aircraft after the damage was repaired. Second, she received two aerial torpedo hits, starting fires and a severe list. Although excellent damage control efforts put out the fires, the list became severe, and she was ordered abandoned. A repair party re-boarded, and corrected the list sufficiently that she could be taken under tow. While under tow and being repaired, she was attacked a third time, by IJN submarine ... two torpedo hits, plus concussion from USS Hammann's depth charges (Hammann was sunk by the same sub) re-started the list, leading to Yorktown capsizing and sinking.

Yes, Yorktown was sunk by enemy action ... in spite of heroic and highly effective damage control efforts.

35 posted on 02/15/2011 7:52:22 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: tanknetter
tanknetter: "The ability of well-escorted modern US supercarrier to survive hits is beyond impressive."

Thanks for another great post!

36 posted on 02/15/2011 8:09:48 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: crosshairs
crosshairs: "Obama will stop our military unless there is a coup."

Our next constitutionally required "coup" is scheduled for November 6, 2012.

Be there!

37 posted on 02/15/2011 8:18:08 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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AB: "Yes, Yorktown was sunk by enemy action ... in spite of heroic and highly effective damage control efforts."

Compare Yorktown which was lost in June, 1942 with Franklin, which was saved in March 1945, and you have to realize that a whole lot was learned in a short time about how to design, build, fight and save a damaged aircraft carrier.

USS Franklin, March 19, 1945

38 posted on 02/15/2011 8:25:59 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: Roklok

At Mach 6, would you have time to say anything?


39 posted on 02/15/2011 8:36:01 AM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: hosepipe
Chinese sink a carrier(or anything).. we won't owe them a dime...

Yep. "You owe the bank a hundred thousand, it's your problem. You owe the bank a hundred million, it's the bank's problem."

40 posted on 02/15/2011 8:44:36 AM PST by Billthedrill
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