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Sen. Graham: Raise retirement age to 69 (McLame's lap dog tells 50-somethings to keep working)
The Hill, Washington, DC ^ | 2011-02-02 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 02/02/2011 7:18:22 PM PST by rabscuttle385

Congress should cut a deal this year to raise the retirement age to 69, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said.

Graham, who'd flirted last month with an increase in the retirement age to help address Social Security's solvency, backed a phased-in hike in the retirement age.

"As I said on 'Meet the Press,' I'm looking for a process that will lead to a vote on saving Social Security from bankruptcy this year, that would adjust the age," Graham said on WVOC radio in South Carolina.

Graham referenced as his model the deal cut between President Reagan (R) and Democratic House Speaker Tip O'Neill (Mass.) in the 1980s that provided for a gradual increase in the retirement age to 67.

"Ronald Reagan went from 65 to 67 with Tip O'Neill … we could use that same type system, to go from 67 to 69, for people under 55," he said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 112th; biggovernment; entitlements; lindseygraham; mclameslapdog; rino; socialsecurity; theponz; welfare
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To: Grumplestiltskin
Are you an employer? If so, how many 75-year-olds in your employ?

No, I'm 60 years old and I am still going strong. I see no reason why I should go on the government dole when I hit 65 or 67. Hell, Reagan was into his 70's when he was first elected president, and most of the Supreme Court Justices are well into their 80's before they hang up their shingles.

If I am physically incapable of working (You do know they do have social security disability for people who can't work before they hit retirement age, don't you?) then that would be different. I don't need to bankrupt my grandchildren just so I can sit in a rocking chair waiting to die. I plan on working until God takes me home. An idle brain is the devil's playground... Trouble.

Do you think it is OK for you to sit on your ass for 30 years while your grandchildren foot the bill for you and all your old geezer friends?

Social security is nothing but a welfare system.

How old are you? How long do you think you will live?

When social security was started, the retirement age and the life expectancy age were the same (65). Life expectancy for men is now 76 and for women it is 80 and thanks to modern medicine and nutrition knowledge, it continues to rise. If we are going to use Social security as it was intended, then we should not institute Social Security until people have reached average life expectancy.

We need to start being responsible and cutting wasteful spending. Social Security for people under 70 who are healthy is wasteful government spending. Quite frankly, Social Security is unconstitutional anyway, so why are you so anxious to get on it? Don't you believe in the Constitution?

121 posted on 02/02/2011 10:05:38 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: rabscuttle385

Don’t let Congress critters collect their retirement pensions until they have been out of office for 10 or 20 years.

They could handle the pain same as us “civilians”


122 posted on 02/02/2011 10:56:18 PM PST by hattend (The meaning of the 2010 election was rebuke, reject, and repeal. - Sarah Palin)
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To: The FIGHTIN Illini
So those of us at 54 are screwed again. What a great country!

Story of my life too ... day late and a dollar short ...

123 posted on 02/02/2011 11:09:26 PM PST by 11th_VA (Obamacare - Death by a thousand votes !)
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To: CapnJack
Not only that they will do means testing next so if you have any other retirement income you most likely will not get your SS because they will consider you wealthy. It is all a scam the whole government is a scam. I tmakes me sick to my stomach to see what these politicans are doing to us everyday—
124 posted on 02/02/2011 11:27:44 PM PST by funfan
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To: ladyjane

End it now, take mine and shut up, I will no longer pay for immigrants ans SSI frauds


125 posted on 02/03/2011 12:33:46 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: madison10

Calculate what was paid in, a nominal amount of interest and a lump sum payment, less distributions already paid. All public employees need the same system. Why do people get more than they paid in?


126 posted on 02/03/2011 12:38:16 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: rabscuttle385

I think Politicians should work until 90 before collecting their pensions


127 posted on 02/03/2011 4:05:57 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Fantomw

I’m sure the Chinese would be willing to buy Yellowstone. I just don’t know if it’s enough to save SS.


128 posted on 02/03/2011 4:43:29 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: PieterCasparzen

They already spent the money on planes, highways, state jobs, etc. etc.

In the end, the only way to save SS is to have more people working and fewer taking smaller benefits.


129 posted on 02/03/2011 4:45:42 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: BobL
You are 54 in the prime of you life and complaining like a kid...don't worry the Government will take care of you...wanna hug?
130 posted on 02/03/2011 4:56:49 AM PST by southphilly
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To: BobL

It’s kind of odd isn’t it? The people in 1981 thought they could vote to force the people living in 2011 to work for them.

Today we have people running around saying “But I was promised SS benefits!” And I’m left wondering “Who promised who what?” My kids didn’t promise to support anyone in their retirement not even their own grandparents.


131 posted on 02/03/2011 5:03:41 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: southphilly

“You are 54 in the prime of you life and complaining like a kid...don’t worry the Government will take care of you...wanna hug? “

Me complaining...you got me mixed up. I’ve saved up my money, I have kids, and I don’t need a mansion and an RV when I retire. I’m just trying to stop others from stealing from my descendants.


132 posted on 02/03/2011 5:08:46 AM PST by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

“Today we have people running around saying “But I was promised SS benefits!” And I’m left wondering “Who promised who what?” My kids didn’t promise to support anyone in their retirement not even their own grandparents.”

Good call - you get it.


133 posted on 02/03/2011 5:09:21 AM PST by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: The FIGHTIN Illini

Consider getting out of the rut. Rather than stay in the rut forever, find a way to transition to something else.

It is not required to “be” what you are forever. Consider “being” something different, perhaps even somewhere else.


134 posted on 02/03/2011 5:09:50 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: rabscuttle385

Nothing to see here folks, SS is working fine and we should just leave it alone, let it work its magic.


135 posted on 02/03/2011 5:13:36 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: P-Marlowe; rabscuttle385
Based on current life expectancy tables,

Based on the cash I've been putting into this "investment" since age 15, I'd like them to just give it back to me.

Write out a check. Let me have my money. Let me do with it what I want. I'd prefer it with interest, but heck, I'll settle for dollar-for-dollar.

136 posted on 02/03/2011 5:33:24 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: xzins; rabscuttle385
Write out a check. Let me have my money. Let me do with it what I want. I'd prefer it with interest, but heck, I'll settle for dollar-for-dollar.

LOL!

It's a tax, not a retirement investment. If they cut you a check "dollar for dollar", your grandchildren will have to cover it.

The whole social security system is an unconstitutional ponzi scheme. It has run out of money and America has aborted it's posterity so there is no one left to scam.

It was never your money. You'll never get it back. Your Grandchildren not only will never get a dime of it, but they will be footing the bill for you and me and their parents and grandparents and great grandparents long after we are gone and until they day they die.

137 posted on 02/03/2011 5:52:49 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
It was never your money. You'll never get it back. Your Grandchildren not only will never get a dime of it, but they will be footing the bill for you and me and their parents and grandparents and great grandparents long after we are gone and until they day they die.

The damnable thing in all of that is that I agree with everything you write there except one: It WAS my money.

As a young kid working a Ben Franklin's 5&10 for 90cents an hour, after a 30 hour week that totaled exactly $27. that was MY money. They took some of my money for Fed and some for Sl Security. I might never have held it in my hand, but .90x30 = $27., and that was my money.

Ponzi, yes. Grandkids, yes. Unconstitutional, yes.

Not my money...NO!

138 posted on 02/03/2011 6:11:01 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: xzins

When I took my first job and got my first paycheck, my boss sat me down and pointed out all the various taxes that were taken out. He pointed to the Social Security tax and said, “this is for your social security. You’ll never see a dime of this money.” He knew it was a freaking ponzi scheme back then. He never saw a dime of it either. He died before he hit 65.


139 posted on 02/03/2011 6:16:54 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: therightliveswithus

This is going to turn out just like the drinking age when I was younger.

Grew up in Illinois and when I was 18 the drinking age was raised from 19 to 21.


140 posted on 02/03/2011 7:07:36 AM PST by glorgau
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