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Sleeper Cells in the USA
Family Security Matters ^ | January 26, 2011 | Dave Gaubatz

Posted on 02/02/2011 10:52:29 AM PST by houeto

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To: Arrowhead1952
Remember the threads from about a year ago??

Remember the threads from about fifteen years ago. Apologies in advance for not having the book at hand as I write this, so please correct any mistakes in details, but the message is clear: We were almost certainly attacked by “sleepers” from Iraq in Oklahoma during Clinton's regime.
The mainstream medium reporter Jayna Davis refused to let go of the significant amount of evidence it was her profession to notice, and wrote a book called, I believe, “The Third Terrorist.” Among those who believed her were the Oklahoma Attorney General, the Director of The FBI, and the old style Chicago Democrat, the man who prosecuted Clinton, David Shippers.

Davis provided the kinds of facts which attract attention because they are unarguable. The so-quickly-executed Tim McVeigh was interviewed by 60 minutes, and reportedly focused on the injustice being done to the peaceful Saddam Hussein and his intrinsically peaceful society of peaceful Muslims. The “swarthy man” seen by dozens of people was later identified as an officer from Iraq's Republican Guard, one of several thousand granted asylum by Bush after the 1st Iraq war, and moved to Oklahoma en mass.

McVeigh's phone records showed somewhere between 100 and 200 phone messages to the Philipines, Cebu City, the base for Jamaya al Islam and Ramzi Yousef, The 1993 WTC mastermind, the one who blew a hole in the side of an airliner testing a device. The “swarthy man” was later tracked to Boston's Logan Airport where we was working with the support crew on 9/11.

Our government didn't want to hear - not a surprised because Clinton was not interested in a domestic war, and certainly not in an almost certainly futile effort to trace responsibilities to Iraq or dispersed terrorist groups. Davis proceeded to gather testimony from witnesses in the Muslim community around Oklahoma, filling dozens of boxes with tapes and manuscripts. When she provided the evidence to the FBI (sound familiar to those who followed Flight 800?), the first delivery of over a dozen boxes disappeared, and no official would admit having seen them. David Shippers got involved, getting signatures, and promising to prosecute misbehavior.

The issue appears to have been that the decision to handle the attack as a domestic crime would have complicated the trial. Foreign involvement would have dragged on for years. There might also have been the release of sensitive information which could hinder possible future actions - so, as with Flight 800, whether we like it or not, there are rational reasons to to inform the public. They knew they had enough evidence to try McVeigh. They knew that Nichols would not talk because his new Filipino wife and their child would not survive if he said anything which would implicate Muslims with whom he worked in the U.S.

This is a much anticipated war which will last until Arabic Islam (non Arabs cannot read the Koran which cannot officially be translated into other languages) is reformed.
To understand the reality of Islam I cannot recommend Wafa Sutan’s “A God Who Hates” enough. Ponder that the most honest and direct voices explaining the truth of Islam are those of women, probably because all Muslim women are prisoners, and have the least to lose. Anything written by Ayan Hirsi Ali, or any of her speeches, are a testament to human courage and, not hindered by the clearly sexist observation that beyond her brilliant elocution, Hirsi Ali is one of the world's most beautiful women. (Hirsi Ali, from Sudan, ran from an arranged marriage and repudiated Islam, guaranteeing a death sentence, mastered Dutch, became an MP, watched a friend Van Gogh, assassinated by a Muslim, saw the Dutch weaken and their promise of protection fade, and is now in the U.S., which must not weaken as Europe has.)

141 posted on 02/02/2011 3:09:55 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding
The so-quickly-executed Tim McVeigh was interviewed by 60 minutes, and reportedly focused on the injustice being done to the peaceful Saddam Hussein and his intrinsically peaceful society of peaceful Muslims. The “swarthy man” seen by dozens of people was later identified as an officer from Iraq's Republican Guard, one of several thousand granted asylum by Bush after the 1st Iraq war, and moved to Oklahoma en mass.

McVeigh's phone records showed somewhere between 100 and 200 phone messages to the Philipines, Cebu City, the base for Jamaya al Islam and Ramzi Yousef, The 1993 WTC mastermind, the one who blew a hole in the side of an airliner testing a device. The “swarthy man” was later tracked to Boston's Logan Airport where we was working with the support crew on 9/11.

Interesting. I'll come back with a link you'll enjoy... explains why our issues don't make the light of day...

142 posted on 02/02/2011 3:53:47 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - World Disaster Map)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Anyone know of a more updated terrorist map?

I know that they were in Waco, TX 20 years ago.


143 posted on 02/02/2011 3:55:02 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Spaulding

Why ‘their victims’ count for more...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2667203/posts


144 posted on 02/02/2011 3:57:13 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - World Disaster Map)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Thanks for the updated map though I still think there are more. That map only shows large cities and they have spread out to more rural areas.


145 posted on 02/02/2011 4:01:35 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

‘<____________cleverly disguised as a religion.’

Got that right.


146 posted on 02/02/2011 4:32:34 PM PST by USARightSide (At last! I'm actually here, after reading FR for 6 years! Pardon any fumbles - -)
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To: windcliff

Home reading.


147 posted on 02/02/2011 4:46:48 PM PST by windcliff
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To: Candor7
Ping to major home security concern

Thank you for the heads up.

148 posted on 02/02/2011 6:42:19 PM PST by KimberInKhaki
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To: KimberInKhaki

Welcome Kimber!


149 posted on 02/02/2011 8:10:41 PM PST by Candor7 (Obaoa . fascist info..http://wwvw.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_the _quintessentia_1.html)
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To: KimberInKhaki; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...
For over two years, AntiMullah has held an estimate of over 40,000 suicide bombers in place in the USA with a probability this has increased to close to 60,000 if growth rate continued along previous lines.

Hard to calculate are the add-ons Obama has imported from the Middle East, mostly Palestinians, and allowed in by keeping our borders porous

MEANWHILE in case you missed this yesterday, watch Glenn Beck's three videos on the impending Caliphate and some other editorial.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/02/must-watch-coming-caliphate-must-watch.html

150 posted on 02/02/2011 8:16:35 PM PST by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive)
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To: wendy1946

If they are ready to die by suicide what would be a higher price?


151 posted on 02/02/2011 8:20:35 PM PST by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive)
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To: FARS
an estimate of over 40,000 suicide bombers

Well... after the dastardly deed is done... they'll be none left! What do they do for an encore?

152 posted on 02/02/2011 8:23:39 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


153 posted on 02/02/2011 8:26:00 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ought-six; All
There are very clear tactical plans in place to abduct our children with school buses. And also use these to transport their people and weapons.

Apart from there being some 40+ school buses missing around America, yes, they disappeared, this strategy follows the Palestinian tactic of using ambulances to ferry their fighters and arms in that area. Even using UN ambulances.

An increasing and already large number of school bus drivers are from the Middle East - many of them Afghans and other Islamist nations! Partly as it is a job which requires little language skill and like all minorities, when a driving position becomes available, they immediately try to help out their own.

Thus the group grows naturally not just as a terrorist effort. But provides fertile ground for inflammatory Moslem inciting.

154 posted on 02/02/2011 8:33:04 PM PST by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive)
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To: driftdiver

Ostensibly HAMAS but Heszbollah can pass for either


155 posted on 02/02/2011 8:36:37 PM PST by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive)
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To: traditional1

Add Ericc HOLDER


156 posted on 02/02/2011 8:38:56 PM PST by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive)
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To: Churchillspirit

>>>My question would be....why a ten year hiatus?<<<

A friend and I were talking about this today. My opinion is that the terrorists understand that they actually failed in their 9/11 operation. Their goal was to continue to hijack planes day after day, targeting city after city, until we surrendered. Their operation succeeded until the passengers of the fourth plane got wind of what was going on and took matters into their own hands. It was all over in less than two hours. To make matters worse, we sent the Marines to their strongholds.

Any kind of big, showy terrorist attack would rekindle that same response. We’re dealing with fanatics, but not fools. The best way to deal with a powerful giant is to slowly wear it down with subtle gestures. Water will erode granite. So they send out front groups who sound moderate. They open schools and ask for tolerance. They cry racism and hate speech when someone questions their motives or points out the obvious truth of their intent. Slowly, slowly, slowly. Islam has been fighting the West since the battle of Tours and they are patient, with a long-term view. They know that establishing populations in the midst of the infidel, seeking converts here and there, playing the weakness of the enemy against itself, is the way to go when dealing with a place like the United States. Give them 100 years. One day the Christians will be a minority, and the Islamic state is calmly voted into power, and Shari’a established, then the takeoff succeeds. No reason for war when slow death by a thousand cuts will suffice.

God help us.


157 posted on 02/02/2011 8:39:23 PM PST by redpoll
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To: Spaulding

Placemark to read tomorrow.


158 posted on 02/02/2011 9:10:02 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Don't you think 9/11 might have put a damper on fundraising here?

No. Between feeding their own machine (through contributions to 'humanitarian agencies'), and the liberals, progressives, and other ill/misinformed and stupid people out there, I have my doubts that they have suffered any great decline in fundraising. I also question where billions of dollars unaccounted for have gone during this administration.

159 posted on 02/02/2011 9:16:48 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: FARS
what would be a higher price?

Use your imagination. Kill every member of their families; drop a pig with their name on it on that big green stadium in Mecca from 50,000'; grind up anything left of their bodies along with the remains of a pig and drop it on Mecca.....

160 posted on 02/02/2011 9:57:51 PM PST by wendy1946
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