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To: george76

If, as people of a conservative mind maintain, it is unconstitutional to force people to buy health insurance, wouldn’t it likewise be unconstitutional to compel them to buy a firearm?


7 posted on 02/01/2011 8:49:41 AM PST by davisfh (Islam is a mental illness with global social consequences)
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To: davisfh
If, as people of a conservative mind maintain, it is unconstitutional to force people to buy health insurance, wouldn’t it likewise be unconstitutional to compel them to buy a firearm?

Exactly.

8 posted on 02/01/2011 8:51:14 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: davisfh
If, as people of a conservative mind maintain, it is unconstitutional to force people to buy health insurance, wouldn’t it likewise be unconstitutional to compel them to buy a firearm?

I agree. Except I think in this case you'd have to refer to the state constitution to check for constitutionality.
9 posted on 02/01/2011 8:53:43 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: davisfh

Didn’t Kennesaw, Georgia do this way back when? I wonder if that precedent’s been cited in any of the Obamacare briefs.


13 posted on 02/01/2011 8:58:57 AM PST by nina0113
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To: davisfh
Actually, it's unconstitutional for the FEDS to tell us we have to buy something. It's not necessarily against the federal Constitution for a state to oblige its citizens to buy something.

The bill also does not specify the type of firearm citizens must purchase - only that it be "suitable to their temperament, physical capacity, and preference."

Full auto LWRC in 6.8, I think, is the only non-crew-served weapon that is suitable to my temperament.

14 posted on 02/01/2011 8:59:08 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: davisfh

I think it is likely a symbolic gesture, pointing out absurdity by being absurd.


17 posted on 02/01/2011 8:59:58 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: davisfh

-——wouldn’t it likewise be unconstitutional to compel them to buy a firearm?———

Think on this a moment. If the law passes, everyone must go buy a gun. Do you thing Dashle will buy a gun or sue?

If he sues andd loses he will ultimately go to the Supreme court which will likely rule in his favor and establish a precedent. The state can’t force folks to buy stuff unless like car insurance it is required to facilitate the privilege to drive


19 posted on 02/01/2011 9:01:27 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: davisfh
If, as people of a conservative mind maintain, it is unconstitutional to force people to buy health insurance, wouldn’t it likewise be unconstitutional to compel them to buy a firearm?

The state government doesn't have to rely on the interstate commerce clause of the US Constitution. Completely separate issue, since a different constitution is involved.

25 posted on 02/01/2011 9:12:37 AM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: davisfh

This is a twist on an older idea.
Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack once proposed a bill to register “non-gun-owners” and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state.

At least this order to own a firearm is Constitutionally based. I don’t find the same basis for Obamacare.


34 posted on 02/01/2011 9:36:35 AM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: davisfh
If, as people of a conservative mind maintain, it is unconstitutional to force people to buy health insurance, wouldn’t it likewise be unconstitutional to compel them to buy a firearm?

Because the militia, composed of all free citizins, was part of the Common Law at the time of the Rebellion. Ans the Constitution clearly sees it continuing.

Also Posse comitatus (common law)

48 posted on 02/01/2011 11:19:02 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce - Karl Marx)
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To: davisfh

I think that very well might be the point. Soon as the lefties screech about it being unconstitutional, they’ve just set precedent for kicking Obamacare out.


51 posted on 02/01/2011 11:38:05 AM PST by Fire_on_High (Stupid should hurt.)
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To: davisfh

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2666765/posts?page=70#70


71 posted on 02/01/2011 4:56:18 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: davisfh

Indeed, it would be unconstitutional for Congress to require people to buy firearms, for the same reason Judge Vinson ruled it unconstitutional for Congress to require us to buy health insurance.

However, it could well be argued requiring people to be part of the militia (in the original understanding as the armed citizenry) is one of the rights reserved to the states, so if South Dakota wants to insist everyone over 21 who does not have a legal disability own a firearm, that seems to be within South Dakota’s rights.


95 posted on 02/02/2011 4:29:30 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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