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Republicans make surprising move in defense of 2nd Amendment(AZ)
statepress.com ^ | 30 January, 2011 | Sean McCauley

Posted on 01/31/2011 3:54:34 AM PST by marktwain

In light of the horrific tragedy that occurred this month in Tucson, many people across the nation expected gun restriction debates to catch fire.

Quite unexpectedly in Arizona, however, the opposite has happened. Republicans have continued to surge forward in their Second Amendment rights legislation.

According to The Huffington Post, the Tucson shooting did next to nothing to halt legislation that would continue to make firearms available to the general public.

What is even more surprising is that the GOP is beginning to make moves to allow students at college campuses across the state to legally carry concealed weapons.

Before you begin to grow nervous or hesitant, you have to realize that there are two sides to every issue.

Republicans see many gun laws as a direct violation of every American’s constitutionally inherent rights.

They believe that many laws restricting guns and the purchase of guns are not only unconstitutional, but prevent law-abiding citizens from buying weapons and do little to stop criminals from illegally obtaining firearms.

Republicans in Arizona aren’t alone in their Second Amendment rhetoric. Our state isn’t the first to suggest such a law.

In fact, the state of Utah passed a similar law before the Tucson shooting making it legal for students who have permits to carry concealed weapons on college campuses.

Have you heard about acts of violence, chaos and anarchy taking place across college campuses in Utah?

My guess is that you haven’t, and the reason is because there hasn’t been a tragedy in Utah since the law was passed.

A strong victory thus far that Republicans can adamantly stand behind, the Utah law is as bizarre as it is baffling. Yet it seems as if, at least in Utah, the GOP philosophy has been successful.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az; banglist; campus; giffords; sccc
If the author is writting satire, they are doing a very good job.
1 posted on 01/31/2011 3:54:40 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

lol, the agony of the clueless liberal


2 posted on 01/31/2011 4:03:25 AM PST by Da Mav
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To: marktwain

I do not own a pistol, not because I don’t want to, but I refuse to pay $500 in fees and a year of red tape to obtain a permit to exercise a right supposedly guaranteed to me by the Constitution. New York is a communist totalitarian dictatorship.


3 posted on 01/31/2011 4:08:42 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Re-Elect President Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: BuffaloJack

As I mentioned in another thread a minute ago, I have lived in NY (Rochester area) for 7 years. My 3 legally purchased handguns are living in a secure location in WI, where I moved from in 2003. Getting a pistol permit in NY is ridiculous and unconstitutional.


4 posted on 01/31/2011 4:16:58 AM PST by GnL
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To: marktwain
"Before you begin to grow nervous or hesitant, you have to realize that there are two sides to every issue.

Republicans see many gun laws as a direct violation of every American’s constitutionally inherent rights".

As does anyone that can read the constitution.

5 posted on 01/31/2011 4:25:00 AM PST by Durus (The distance between us has grown, and I struggle to quantify it. Windage adjustments are done.)
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To: Durus

Pro-gun laws are winners when it come election time.
Let’s hope the clueless Pubbies figure this out.


6 posted on 01/31/2011 4:31:31 AM PST by Flintlock
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To: Flintlock

It could happen...I guess.


7 posted on 01/31/2011 4:33:53 AM PST by Durus (The distance between us has grown, and I struggle to quantify it. Windage adjustments are done.)
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To: marktwain
A 2005 study conducted by the Harvard School of Public Health found that 3.5 percent of college students had a firearm at their college. The study also found that students who have had drinking problems are more likely to own a gun.

3.5% seems rather high since

A. It would be unusual that at the age of 18 a student could afford to buy a shotgun which is the only legal firearm they could obtain short of daddy's shotgun which he should/would know the whereabouts of. Sounds pretty unlikely he could keep it hidden in his dorm room without a proctor finding out about it.

2. If they were 21 years old and legal to purchase a handgun same thing, where would they get the money or daddy not know his .44 is missing?

iii. If a student with a drinking problem is "more likely" to own a firearm the stats must exceed most actuarial tables for legal drinking age, legal firearm ownership age, breaking the law having the firearm on campus and representing north of 1.76% of the student body sounds absurd.

Nearly 2 of every 100 students walking around campus are alcoholics packing heat? I call BS!

8 posted on 01/31/2011 4:39:08 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (YOU BETCHA!)
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To: BuffaloJack
New York is a communist totalitarian dictatorship.

Quite true, not to mention cold and snowy in the winter. I went to graduate school there, and couldn't wait to leave.

9 posted on 01/31/2011 5:19:16 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: marktwain
"The State Press" is not a real newspaper -- it's the Arizona State University daily wet diaper and fish wrap, designed to train future Ministry of Truth employees to take their place amongst the media titans that inform us.

Not to be taken seriously. Ever. Good for laughs, though.

10 posted on 01/31/2011 5:22:23 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: GnL

Nonetheless, you can get it without too much trouble. Being in Rochester, you shouldn’t have the problems some other counties have. Do the paperwork, pay the fee, import your guns and exercise your rights to the fullest extent possible.

In NY (outside NYC, which is another country) once you get your permit you’ve got more latitude than you realize. You can go so far as get a Serbu Super Shorty (or other 12ga (!) pistol as I did) and carry it concealed in a bar. Go figure.

Yeah, the limits suck. Work within them, then work to get them removed. Or, of course, move.


11 posted on 01/31/2011 5:51:18 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Great children's books - http://www.UsborneBooksGA.com)
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To: GnL
I have lived in NY (Rochester area) for 7 years. Getting a pistol permit in NY is ridiculous and unconstitutional.
Rochester is the (per capita) murder capital of NY state. No need for self defense there. Move along ...
12 posted on 01/31/2011 6:04:54 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: BuffaloJack

Get out of NY BuffaloJack, go somewhere where there are still some sensible people left but the caution is that even here in Texas we have to watch the corrupt b*****ds (state congresscritters) like hawks because they’ll betray you in a heartbeat.

Never trust government nor relax for a second.

In my area, our county thieves are purchasing property (w/o consent of the citizens) and making “parks” that so far, no one (exept county “authorities”) has access to. Taking good land off the tax rolls yet raising our property taxes every year. Texas has some of the highest property taxes in the nation. We’re currently fighting this bunch of county totalitarians.


13 posted on 01/31/2011 6:17:50 AM PST by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: marktwain
According to The Huffington Post, the Tucson shooting did next to nothing to halt legislation that would continue to make firearms available to the general public.

I have believed the whole time that this was a false-flag operation, achieved by egging on Loughner through the Pima County Sheriffs Office. Arizona is key, I believe, to leftists plans, and they had to reverse the 2nd Amendment trends in AZ. So, they murdered a Republican judge and several others, and injured a Dem who went off the reservation on the gun issue (not far enough for us, but WAY far our to the lefties).

Call me tin-foil or whatever, but I believe Tucson was an engineered event, designed to create momentum for disarmament of citizens, just like RFK's assassination was.

14 posted on 01/31/2011 6:20:56 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: marktwain
Liberals love knee-jerk reactions to "crises."

It's the way they get things done.

15 posted on 01/31/2011 6:37:24 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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