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Hawaii lawmakers want release of Obama birth info
Associated Press ^ | Jan. 27, 2011 | MARK NIESSE

Posted on 01/27/2011 1:51:35 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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To: Free ThinkerNY

Maybe it’s time to consider giving Hawaii the same status as Guam or Puerto Rico again.


121 posted on 01/27/2011 3:17:26 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: maine-iac7

I’d also like some explanation concerning:

Lieutenant Quarles Harris... shot dead in his car.
(breached passports of Clinton, McCain and the “Won” prior to elections...)

Nate Spencer...gay? murdered 2007.

Larry Bland....gay? member- Rev Wright’s “church”-dead.

Donald Young....gay? member- Rev Wright’s “church”-dead.


122 posted on 01/27/2011 3:18:13 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: heysean

Look crazy? I think the movement is growing.


124 posted on 01/27/2011 3:21:11 PM PST by Lachisula
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To: Jolla

Bumop.


125 posted on 01/27/2011 3:21:46 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: Freedom_Fighter_2001

LOL


126 posted on 01/27/2011 3:22:17 PM PST by heysean
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To: butterdezillion

I don’t think there’s anything funny about this, however, there are only so many avenues open to me, to frame what is taking place for what it is.

No, we have adopted third world nation’s tactics in this nation, and yet the Republicans see nothing wrong or any need to take action.

I just told another poster we may be witnessing the fall of the Western world. I don’t know what could be more telling that to realize we have a person sitting in the highest office in our nation, who still two years in can’t or won’t prove he is a natural born citizen.

And worse yet, every government entity in this nation is acting the part of a willing accomplice.

This is chaos, top to bottom, nationally, and internationally.


127 posted on 01/27/2011 3:23:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Barry Soetoro “immigrated” to the US

Legally....I assume...as an Occidental student.

128 posted on 01/27/2011 3:28:01 PM PST by lonestar
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To: freeandfreezing

Maybe he really WAS born at home in Hawaii with no independent witnesses as his maternal grandmother registered (I believe).


129 posted on 01/27/2011 3:28:21 PM PST by erlayman
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To: RobRoy
I think Mike Evans claim, even though recanted, so increased the publicity of this thing that I consider it to be this issue’s “blue dress” moment.
It’s got legs now.

This may be the Blue Culottes Moment

130 posted on 01/27/2011 3:28:42 PM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: JPG

I sure hope with all my Heart that You are correct! But these Thugs represent the Best of the Best of the WORST in Society! Murder is the nicest thing they do to their Victims and Enemies......


131 posted on 01/27/2011 3:29:42 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I got in contact with the office of the NE legislator who proposed an eligibility bill; I’m excited about the prospect of working with them to make it the best it can be and to see it become law.

What we agreed on very quickly is that this isn’t about Obama. This is about government credibility and the rule of law.

Anybody who sees the stupid games Obama and his pals are playing with national security on this issue and thinks it’s just a tee-hee distraction has no clue what makes up the fabric of this nation. We the people are slow to rise, but as 9-11 should have reminded us all, when we realize we are under attack we rise.

Here’s how I explained it on my blog (sorry for the length. Trying hard not to make people go off FR to see things):

Dear legislator:

With all the urgent business today, you’re probably asking yourself why an eligibility bill is needed now, when the country has gotten along fine all these years. I’m writing to give as concisely as possible a few of the reasons why this issue is among the most urgent of all. There is much, much more, but these are some of the main reasons:

1. National security. There is no security clearance for POTUS and VP. The vote itself is the only vetting done, and voters have no access to official records. Unresolved questions about eligibility mean that any person or foreign government that has incriminating records can blackmail the person who holds the nuclear football, appoints SCOTUS justices, cabinet members, and unaccountable “czars”, makes executive orders, and has the power to veto anything our elected officials pass .

2. Frustration of legitimate state government functions. There is no legal definition of “natural born citizen” and the courts are evading any cases which would require the definition to be resolved. This means that nobody in this country can say for sure whether someone is eligible. Leo Donofrio challenged the eligibility of 3 Presidential candidates in NJ – McCain (who was born in Panama), Obama (whose father was not a US citizen), and Roger Calero (a green card holder born in Nicaragua) – all of whom were placed on the ballot without any records being checked, even though NJ requires their SOS to “verify Constitutional eligibility”.

We have a slate of young political leaders who come from a variety of situations, and this issue is only going to get more complicated if we don’t resolve the questions BEFORE it becomes a referendum on a particular candidate. It is unfair to ask our Secretary of State, Congress, or the chairs of the DNC and RNC to decide who is eligible, when they are not authorized to interpret the Constitution and have no ruling on the definition by those who ARE supposed to interpret the Constitution. Having 50 different Secretaries of State decide for themselves what the definition is will present a chaotic situation. We clearly need a SCOTUS ruling on the definition of “natural born citizen”.

3. Denial of the people’s First Amendment right to “petition the government for a redress of grievances”. The only civilians the courts allow to challenge either a candidate’s eligibility or bureaucrats’ refusal to do their legally-required duties (such as in NJ, referenced above) are those the court thinks would “probably” win the election. Donofrio and all others who have sued – including another candidate and an elector – have been denied “standing”. When the entire citizenry is told they don’t have standing they are being told it is none of their business if the Constitution is followed or not. In a form of government which is critically dependent on accountability from a vigilant citizenry, that situation is literally a death sentence for America.

4. That refusal to allow real accountability creates a dangerous, toxic situation where government is distrusted, conspiracy theories abound because there is nobody who is trusted for accurate information, and the nation is split into violently polarized factions. Over the weekend David Gregory pushed very hard to get Eric Cantor to label as “crazy” the 60% or so of Americans who aren’t confident that Obama was born in America. After all the talk about softening the rhetoric we still have 60% of Americans being demonized by the media, and politicians caught between the agenda of the media and the very real anger and frustration of the American public. That’s not healthy for anybody – least of all the country as a whole.

Right now a decorated military surgeon is sitting in jail with his family’s livelihood and $800,000 of his own money gone, rather than being in Afghanistan where he wants to be, helping to heal our wounded warriors of wounds like Gabrielle Giffords’ – all because in over a year of asking his leaders for assurances that the Commander in Chief was truly compliant with the Constitution he swore to protect and defend, he could not find even ONE leader who would take the issue seriously – including his Congressman and the Commander in Chief. What message does that give our military officers who make those oaths? What message does that give our wounded heroes in Afghanistan?

Presenting proof of eligibility is something every child who plays in Little League has to do, but the media contends it is “crazy” if people want the United States President to have to do the same. It feels like an alternate universe to many who feel like the country they know and love is slipping away, where there is one set of laws for the people and another set – that no one can even enforce – for the ruling class. As if the ruling class is “untouchable” by legitimate means of legal accountability. The government needs the goodwill of the American people, and they are not going to get it by mocking the deepest-held convictions that we all supposedly share in the Constitution.

Divided we fall. That’s why this issue matters so much.


132 posted on 01/27/2011 3:31:16 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: erlayman

And You, dear Sir, are now offered the sole possession
of the George Washington Bridge for the mere price of
$1.00 U.S.! ;-)


133 posted on 01/27/2011 3:32:53 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And so our end begins... to the payment of $100 for a viewing of a “birth certificate”. Who wants to bet that this money will be funneled right into Obammies campaign chest?!? Haha yah right like obama will ever let us have elections again!


134 posted on 01/27/2011 3:34:06 PM PST by sanescold
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To: JennysCool

135 posted on 01/27/2011 3:35:14 PM PST by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: Mortrey

“I’d also like some explanation concerning:

Lieutenant Quarles Harris... shot dead in his car.
(breached passports of Clinton, McCain and the “Won” prior to elections...)

Nate Spencer...gay? murdered 2007.

Larry Bland....gay? member- Rev Wright’s “church”-dead.

Donald Young....gay? member- Rev Wright’s “church”-dead.”

Right. I’m thinking this has reached the tipping point.


136 posted on 01/27/2011 3:36:03 PM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: surrey; wintertime; LucyT
I heard Jerome Corsi this morning and he said the risk of producing a forgery would be huge. He also doesn’t think Obama is playing a game with this because that could really backfire on him.

Yes indeed.

137 posted on 01/27/2011 3:42:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: erlayman

So why all the secrecy? He’s claimed 2 different hospitals as his place of birth. He knows exactly where he was born and doesn’t want the world to know.


138 posted on 01/27/2011 3:43:44 PM PST by surrey
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To: butterdezillion

butter thats a great letter/outline and right to the point.


139 posted on 01/27/2011 3:45:13 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*Well th)
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To: rxsid

Its dispicable that an Outstanding Military Officer and the Chief Flight Surgeon that Certifies ALL Air Force Pilots to be of the Supreme Health and Mental Standards to Fly Our American President around all over the World on AIR FORCE ONE is sitting in Levenworth Prison today for asking to see a $12.50 legal copy of Mr. HUSSEIN’S Long Form Birth Certificate! I just had to show mine to renew my Driver’s License! I had to show mine for paperwork in a recent Hospital Procedure! What is the problem with HUSSEINS? McCAIN had to get a Full SENATE VOTE on his Eligibility and his Father was Commander of the Entire Pacific Fleet! We know nothing at all about HUSSEIN’S Past because it has been erased by Thugs in It’s Entirety! And now we know thru an indepedant Biographer, that Michelle ordered OBOZO to pack his notes in the car trunk and deliver them to Bill Ayer’s Living Room so that he could finally Ghost Author Obozo’s long awaited Memoir’s! When is America going to Wakeup?


140 posted on 01/27/2011 3:45:18 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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