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Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate
WND ^ | 1/24/2011 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 01/25/2011 3:33:13 AM PST by soakncider

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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

As an attorney I have to question whether this is a valid notarized affidavit. There is no attestation language where the affiant attests that he is who he claims to be, and states that he was place under oath and that the statements as written are true. Second, the affiant’e signature is supposed to precede the notary’s. Adams’ signature is floating free at the bottom and is meaningless. Further it is not dated. Third, there is no state and county/city byline in the notary’s attestation block.


81 posted on 01/25/2011 8:03:21 AM PST by DocFordUSN
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To: SueRae

Second choice McCain and Palin? Are you saying they would take office then? Interesting but I’m not sure if things are set up that way...more likely clueless joe would preside until a special election or just wait for next election...


82 posted on 01/25/2011 8:05:44 AM PST by databoss
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To: NRG1973
What a mind reader!

“This whole issue was created by obama and the Dems in order to confuse and obfuscate.”

“That's exactly what 0bama wants!!!”

“If he needs to come up with this birth certificate, I'm sure he will do so.”

Would you please send me the next 6 LOTTO numbers via FReepMail immediately.

Then go back to the Democratic Underground.

83 posted on 01/25/2011 8:18:01 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: DocFordUSN
Are you able to comment on the author's assertion here regarding the Hawaiian CON (located at bottom of graphic)?
84 posted on 01/25/2011 8:33:01 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: SueRae
Imagine though, if Obama is proven to be ineligible while in office, the Presidency would go to the 2nd choice, McCain and VP Palin. All legislation he signed would be null and void, as well as all his committee and czar appointments.

That's not how it would go down. If he is exposed as ineligible while in office, the only remedy would be impeachment, and that would be need two thirds of the 'Rat-controlled Senate. The courts don't get a say in the matter. Congress has the sole power.

If Congress were to remove him, Joe Biden would be his successor, and Biden would get to appoint his VP. I would suggest he pick Neil Abercrombie as the best bet to continue the tradition he has established for the VP office.

85 posted on 01/25/2011 8:43:28 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: NRG1973

I believe that if it were shown to the public that Obama was not ‘technically’ eligible by the Constitution for POTUSA there would be a swelling of public opinion to correct that ‘technicality’ because my faith is that our Constitution is meaningful to most people. If I’m wrong then we can kiss all the spirit behind the demonstations on the 4th of July goodby and our Constitution as well. If it is shown or indicated that Obama is not even a citizen of the USA the swelling would be much more. In either case the public would be made aware that there are very pervasive forces nationally and internationally that want to change this great Nation away from the ‘Spirit of 76’. To paraphrase Patrick Henry somewhat I say “ Give me a truely eligible President or give death to the Constitution of our Founders”


86 posted on 01/25/2011 8:50:18 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: databoss
"Is there any way this Manchurian candidate makes it on the next presidential ballot?"

Yes


87 posted on 01/25/2011 8:50:20 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: NRG1973

I believe that if it were shown to the public that Obama was not ‘technically’ eligible by the Constitution for POTUSA there would be a swelling of public opinion to correct that ‘technicality’ because my faith is that our Constitution is meaningful to most people. If I’m wrong then we can kiss all the spirit behind the demonstations on the 4th of July goodby and our Constitution as well. If it is shown or indicated that Obama is not even a citizen of the USA the swelling would be much more. In either case the public would be made aware that there are very pervasive forces nationally and internationally that want to change this great Nation away from the ‘Spirit of 76’. To paraphrase Patrick Henry somewhat I say “ Give me a truely eligible President or give death to the Constitution of our Founders”


88 posted on 01/25/2011 8:50:42 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: omegadawn
Let’s not forget that IF the certificate does not name both parents as U.S. citizens, the certificate would prove obama ineligible to be President. A very good reason for obama NOT to ever release the certificate.

When has Obama ever claimed his daddy was an American?

His eligibility is in no danger unless he is shown to have been born outside the US. Even in that case, arguably his mother was not validly married to his father, thus enabling her to pass on citizenship without meeting that pesky age requirement.

89 posted on 01/25/2011 8:56:33 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: LibsRJerks
What sort of harm could ensue to whom if this were to be completely brought out into the open, the entire country aware, demanding his removal, etc? I would really like to ponder a discussion of the specifics.

(1) There would be widespread rioting in the streets. Not only would it be seen as a racial issue, but you would have plenty of leftist groups (that don't care about the Constiution) formenting violence as a method to hold onto power. A significant percentage of the country would be trying to find some way to keep him in office.

(2) Someone would make the case to that not only should Obama be removed from office, but that he was never legally president to begin with. That means every bill and executive order he has signed immediatly becomes invalid.

The most likely outcome would be (imho) a law or ruling stating that Obama is a NBC because his mother was a citizen, watering down the NBC requirement even more. And opening the door for a foriegn born (and raised) president. One that never even lived in the tUSA, and whose only tie to the USA is have one parent that was a US citizen.

90 posted on 01/25/2011 9:06:10 AM PST by Brookhaven (Moderates = non-thinkers)
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To: cynwoody

I can easily see Obama being ‘shocked and surprised’ to learn he was not born in the US through deceptive mechanisms by his mother and grandparents.

Hell....it might even be true.

The advantage of being a citizen of the Exceptional Country™ is undeniable, desirable and understandable.

I don’t believe there would be any impeachment proceedings, but I CAN see where he could be declared ineligible to run for a second term.


91 posted on 01/25/2011 9:12:02 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: Lessthantolerant
Is our country so corrupt and controlled by socialists that our traditions and rules mean nothing?

No. They're afraid, very afraid of the repurcussions if it becomes accepted that obama is not eligible. These would most likely include a new civil war, a revolution, elimination of our system of government, the burning of the Constitution, voiding of international treaties, complete anarchy, martial law, and additional unpredictable negative results.

92 posted on 01/25/2011 9:13:08 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (The mighty zero, obama,does not warrant the respect necessary for his name to be capitalized.)
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To: Brookhaven
The most likely outcome would be (imho) a law or ruling stating that Obama is a NBC because his mother was a citizen, watering down the NBC requirement even more. And opening the door for a foriegn born (and raised) president. One that never even lived in the tUSA, and whose only tie to the USA is have one parent that was a US citizen.

I don't mean to criticize, but I think you grossly understimate the results that may occur. Your conclusions appear to be based on rule of law and the reasonableness of the populace, and I can't see people being reasonable about this. Please see my post above.

93 posted on 01/25/2011 9:16:56 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (The mighty zero, obama,does not warrant the respect necessary for his name to be capitalized.)
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To: noinfringers2
I believe that if it were shown to the public that Obama was not ‘technically’ eligible by the Constitution for POTUSA there would be a swelling of public opinion to correct that ‘technicality’ because my faith is that our Constitution is meaningful to most people. If I’m wrong then we can kiss all the spirit behind the demonstations on the 4th of July goodby and our Constitution as well. If it is shown or indicated that Obama is not even a citizen of the USA the swelling would be much more. In either case the public would be made aware that there are very pervasive forces nationally and internationally that want to change this great Nation away from the ‘Spirit of 76’. To paraphrase Patrick Henry somewhat I say “ Give me a truely eligible President or give death to the Constitution of our Founders”

But how would you show that0bama isn't a citizen? Would someone 'dig up' a foreign birth certificate and send it in the Fox News so that Glen Beck or Bill O'Reilly could wave the birth certificate around...only to have the birth certificate proven false in a reverse Dan Rather manner.

Lets face it, folks, the left felt like it was trapped by the Dan Rather/National Guard incident in 2004 and would dearly love to turn the tables on Fox news, some of the conservative blogs and talk radio. What better way to do it than create a phony birth certificate issue. It would make conservatives look stupid, minimize the Tea Party and serve to confuse the electorate at a time when the economy is flagging and should be the top issue.

94 posted on 01/25/2011 9:22:10 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: NRG1973
Hopefully, the GOP will avoid this issue like the plague...its a trap.

It is not a trap, it is a conspiracy. No one can convince me that there is not one Republican in the leadership, that does not know the truth on this issue. Anyone, anyone, anyone?

95 posted on 01/25/2011 9:29:35 AM PST by itsahoot (Almost everything I post is Sarcastic, since I have no sense of humor about politics.)
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To: Dryman
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”

It's beginning to look more and more like there is none. Just an affidavit that he was born in Hawaii on such and such a date. And just to make the situation even murkier, one speech he made hinted he may have been born 8 or 9 months earlier than the date on his COLB!

96 posted on 01/25/2011 9:34:51 AM PST by CedarDave (What is DADT? Obama's response when inquiries are made about his birth certificate.)
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To: NRG1973
Lets face it, folks, the left felt like it was trapped by the Dan Rather/National Guard incident in 2004 and would dearly love to turn the tables on Fox news, some of the conservative blogs and talk radio. What better way to do it than create a phony birth certificate issue. It would make conservatives look stupid, minimize the Tea Party and serve to confuse the electorate at a time when the economy is flagging and should be the top issue.

And the fact that (Obama's handlers) have spent over a million dollars in lawyers and legal fees to prevent disclosure was done to simply embarrass conservatives?? Boy, they have a lot more of Soros' money to spend than we thought.

97 posted on 01/25/2011 9:41:14 AM PST by CedarDave (What is DADT? Obama's response when inquiries are made about his birth certificate.)
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To: eddie willers
I don’t believe there would be any impeachment proceedings, but I CAN see where he could be declared ineligible to run for a second term.

That's what I want to see happen. But then, of course, we get Hillary running.

98 posted on 01/25/2011 9:42:50 AM PST by CedarDave (What is DADT? Obama's response when inquiries are made about his birth certificate.)
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To: soakncider

Perhaps someone more active in the whole “birther” thing would remember better than I, but IIRC, the previous governor of HI claimed to have locked Obummer’s original birth cert in a vault, to protect it from prying eyes...

This seems to discount that claim.


99 posted on 01/25/2011 9:43:21 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: itsahoot

Regarding the “its a trap” talk:

Unless Obama and team KNEW that he would elected, wouldn’t they have released a non-forged long form BC during the primaries, when he need to build RAT voter trust and beat Hillary? It seems the “short form/FactCheck BC” was released only after people began seriously questioning it during the RAT primaries.

Or, wouldn’t the Long Form have been released during the general election when he needed to build voter trust to beat McCain?

Or even over the past couple of years, and especially before last November’s elections, as his and RATS’ numbers tanked?

It would seem to be a HUGE gamble, and risk of voter/public trust, to simply hold off on releasing a true BC simply to make some conservatives look like kooks a few years in the future.

Even a corrupt traitor would want as much of the public on his side as possible.

This whole thing SMELLS BAD!


100 posted on 01/25/2011 9:44:57 AM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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