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To: Windflier

Bully for you but with all due respect you are full of sh!t yourself. If race doesn’t matter then why are we even having this conversation? Why are they ‘black’ conservatives. Oh that’s right you don’t label yourselves but certainly embrace the idea. Just as so called black conservatives do nothing to insist the Black Caucus disband or the NAACP disband or any other the myriad of race groups that advocate based solely on race. I guess that too is just the way it is? Funny how there is an excuse for blacks using race no matter what the issue. How it is ‘the way it is’ as you say. How the only way to make ‘inroads’ is to use race. How convenient.


24 posted on 01/20/2011 8:32:26 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.
You're wearing earplugs and blinders, Altura. "Black conservatives" aren't calling themselves that for the benefit of whites and to gain any special treatment or affirmative action within the conservative movement. They're calling themselves that to get the attention of other blacks who have not yet figured out that conservatism transcends race.

That is UNLIKE, for example, gay conservatives, who seek special treatment within the conservative movement in that they want conservatism to include politicians who will vote for gay "rights," which is a form of affirmative action and antithetical to conservatism. They're not identifying themselves as gay to get the attention of other gays, they're doing it to announce to non-gay conservatives that they want special treatment in exchange for their votes.

28 posted on 01/21/2011 12:21:24 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Altura Ct.
If race doesn’t matter then why are we even having this conversation?

Because people like you just will not let it go.

Why are they ‘black’ conservatives.

Because people like you keep calling them that. They're not individuating themselves, much as you want to pin that on them.

Oh that’s right you don’t label yourselves but certainly embrace the idea.

Don't be juvenile. There's a very large difference between being 'race-conscious', and being conscious of ones race. Black conservatives are no more fixated on their own race than you are on yours, but they're saddled with the burden of being a minority within a minority that is monolithically liberal Democrat.

Just as so called black conservatives do nothing to insist the Black Caucus disband or the NAACP disband or any other the myriad of race groups that advocate based solely on race. I guess that too is just the way it is? Funny how there is an excuse for blacks using race no matter what the issue.

Just how much muscle do you think black conservatives have? Are you aware of what a vanishingly small number we really are in America?

And, how do you know that black conservatives aren't doing anything to resist racist organizations like the NAACP and the CBC? Do you talk to black conservatives? Have you even asked? Do you want us to band together and challenge the NAACP as a united group? Wouldn't the simple act of us organizing as a group violate your rules?

You obviously have such fixed ideas about blacks, that you can't even accept the concept of a conservative with black skin. I highly resent your implication that black conservatives are no different than any other race-centric blacks, and I must say that this is the first time I've run into an attitude like yours on the right wing.

30 posted on 01/21/2011 7:06:32 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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