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I don't care for the most part what adults do to their own bodies, as long as I don't have to pay for their poor choices. But 95% of smokers started as teenagers or children, then became addicted and can't kick the habit.

This isn't the greatest study, it has flaws and needs to be validated, but addicting children has never been a conservative value.

1 posted on 01/15/2011 4:28:26 PM PST by Drango
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This isn't the greatest study, it has flaws and needs to be validated, but addicting children has never been a conservative value.

Take your strawman and peddle it to your fellow DUers.

2 posted on 01/15/2011 4:35:08 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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If everyone that ever smoked died of cancer there would not be very many people on earth. The study is hog wash.


3 posted on 01/15/2011 4:36:20 PM PST by org.whodat
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What does this say about my parents and all of my ancestors
who cooked their food and heated their homes with wood
and breathed in a lot of smoke in the process?
Or is this just about “tobacco” smoke?
Or what?


4 posted on 01/15/2011 4:38:33 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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You will not find common sense on this forum when it comes to smoking.

Instead you’ll get the anomalies thrown at you like, “My grandfather smoked every day of his life and lived to be 100.”

If God Himself told them smoking and second-hand smoke was bad for their health they still wouldn’t believe it.


5 posted on 01/15/2011 4:40:50 PM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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Make tobacco illegal, I’m sure that will solve your problem.
/s


6 posted on 01/15/2011 4:42:06 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Gone Galt and loving it)
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Gene Damage!


9 posted on 01/15/2011 4:45:25 PM PST by Sawdring
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A good piece on "research."

Clarice's Pieces: Be Scientific (Skeptical) about Scientific Research

10 posted on 01/15/2011 4:46:04 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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... and it causes Global Warming.


12 posted on 01/15/2011 4:47:18 PM PST by Lexington Green (Bring Our Troops Home - Send The Democrats)
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And, I claim that I have a trillions dollars in my bank account.

These people are crazy freaks. Why do we keep giving money to them and listening to them? When will sanity return?????

BTW, I am no smoker. I hate the stuff, and I know it isn't good for you, but this study is preposterous.

13 posted on 01/15/2011 4:48:42 PM PST by FreeAtlanta ($10 bucks and a nod, Mr. Obama, and this would all be cleared up.)
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Why are there any smokers still alive today?


24 posted on 01/15/2011 4:55:41 PM PST by donna (Political Correctness is cultural Marxism - Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms.)
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...but addicting children has never been a conservative value.

The article didn't say anything about addicting children. Haven't you beaten that straw man to death yet?

28 posted on 01/15/2011 4:59:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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Some folks smoke cigarettes and some folks sniff glue. We have to make lots of choices and we can’t expect to live forever - here on earth, that is.


29 posted on 01/15/2011 5:00:14 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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I’ve always noted that when someone wants to commit SUICIDE, they almost never go into the garage and light up a cigarette. Most often they start up their car...


30 posted on 01/15/2011 5:00:17 PM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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I understand they are trying to get people to quit smoking. But, when you make sweeping statements, that in reflection are ehically questionable.
If the above statements were true then the earth would be inhabited by cancer ridden genetically altered freaks.

some people may be willing to accept this but frankly this kind of stuff does damage to the campaigns to stop smoking.


33 posted on 01/15/2011 5:04:34 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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This isn't the greatest study, it has flaws and needs to be validated, but addicting children has never been a conservative value.

Yes smoking has negative health effects and is addictive.

However teenagers have always done stupid things that have lasting effects on their lives and there is little government can or should do about it.

The effects of smoking on health in the short term is relatively benign comparatively speaking to other things that teens do to themselves.

Consider the communicable diseases that teens get from tattoos and sex.

Consider the permanent effects to the brain and circulatory system caused by huffing paint or gasoline.

Cigarettes are probably the most benign drug that most rebellious teens will ever be exposed to and some studies show that cigarettes do have beneficial effects long term (they usually do not out weigh the negatives but that is debatable depending on the individual).

It is already illegal to sell cigarettes to teens in most states; I do not see any other useful actions available to government.

I you want to do something useful get some parents together and persuade them to keep their teens at home where they have some control over them.

34 posted on 01/15/2011 5:05:43 PM PST by Pontiac
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This isn't the greatest study, it has flaws and needs to be validated, but addicting children has never been a conservative value.

Reading you admit this about a study must mean it was really REALLY bad.

Using 12 volunteer smokers

12 volunteer smokers? That's quite a large number, and no control group either. Why, this study must be the best ever done!</sarc>

The research was funded by the National Cancer Institute.

Follow the money.

35 posted on 01/15/2011 5:05:50 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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Like I said, don’t expect intelligent responses...

Smoking Linked to Lower IQ, Diminished Thinking
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172019,00.html
Researchers found long-term cigarette smoking was associated with diminished thinking skills as well as lower IQ among a group of alcoholic and nonalcoholic men.


36 posted on 01/15/2011 5:06:29 PM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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Yes, it changes the genetic structure of the smoker, but in my case, it gave me significant super powers.

The ability to identify and completely disregard junk science, for example...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

37 posted on 01/15/2011 5:06:36 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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Sounds like total BS to me. The majority of people who ever smoke eventually quit and only a tiny percentage of smokers end up with cancer. I don’t smoke regularly, but will take an occasional puff, especially if offered a hookah.


39 posted on 01/15/2011 5:10:59 PM PST by sand lake bar
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To: FReepers; DJ MacWoW; Drango

DROP A MONEY BOMB HERE!



42 posted on 01/15/2011 5:12:16 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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