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Palin Calls Criticism ‘Blood Libel’
New York Times ^ | January 12, 2011 | MICHAEL D. SHEAR

Posted on 01/12/2011 5:42:46 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: EveningStar

I didn’t libel him or try to get him banned.

Save the accusations for people who’ve done something.


661 posted on 01/12/2011 9:02:01 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Natufian

I’m so sick of the faux outrage that the left is putting into her words.

Democrats and the media need to be called out on the shameful political opportunism and baseless accusations.

It needs to be pointed out how they’re so morally bankrupt that they would take advantage of the pain and suffering of the victims of this tradgedy.


662 posted on 01/12/2011 9:43:31 PM PST by Tempest (I put money ahead of people)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I randomly pinged only a few interested parties that questioned wtc911. Only a few libeled him. Only one wanted him banned. I just wanted to remind people that it’s possible to disagree with someone but still respect him,


663 posted on 01/12/2011 9:53:57 PM PST by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: hcmama
Her name was dragged into it immediately, when the victims bodies were not yet cold. I think to engage the political opportunists who were dancing on their graves at that moment would have been unseemly.

I tend to agree. It would have turned into a shouting match between her and the media. jmo

664 posted on 01/12/2011 9:58:31 PM PST by Netizen
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To: EveningStar; wtc911; Melas

It looks like the “liberal” Jew, Deshowits and the “conservative” Jew, Mark Levin strongly disagree with wtc911 and melas and Palin’s use of “blood libel”.

If wtc911 and melas don’t like Palin, so be it. It’s a free country, but they SHOULD NOT use democratic/MSM talking points to support their positions here on Free Republic. It’s disgusting. It’s offensive.


665 posted on 01/12/2011 10:08:36 PM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: Cardhu
My religion has nothing to do with it at all, and it is rather strange of you to suggest it does.

I do not claim to know more than the Jewish groups you list, because they say the same thing I have said.

“Blood libel” is the activity Muslims and Nazis and many other anti-Semites engage in.

THEY do not call it that. Because to call something libel is to call it false.

Do you understand that?

This is not a phrase used by anti-Semites, it is a phrase, used often by Jews, to describe the bizarre accusations of anti-Semites.

Listing and re-listing what blood libel is, and how bizarre the accusation is, doesn't change that Anti-semites do not and WOULD NOT call it “libel”.

Do you understand that simple point, or do I have to break it down into a more simple formulation for you?

When I say that Reasonable people (and Jewish groups) describe the bizarre accusations of anti-semites as being “the blood libel”, YOU providing quotes from Jewish sources describing the blood libel doesn't prove that anti-Semites use that phrase.

That should be obvious, even to you.

Now please explain to me why an anti-Semite would call it “the blood libel”, instead of “what the Jews do with the blood of Christian babies” or whatever?

Do you know what “libel” means?

666 posted on 01/12/2011 10:18:16 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: CrosscutSaw

It’s a bold choice of words, with enough historical accuracy for me.


667 posted on 01/12/2011 11:12:17 PM PST by socialism_stinX (Why did California go bankrupt?...because of unfunded mandates, medicaid, and illegal immigration.)
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To: Clyde5445

Great speech, the speech of a LEADER. Note how she puts the focus on the country and not on herself!


668 posted on 01/12/2011 11:24:55 PM PST by thecodont
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To: wtc911
Interesting that those same voices trying to get anybody who fails to toe the palin line banned will be the first to declare that the MSM wants to silence her (and Rush) because they fear her most.

Seriously, I haven't seen a grown-up posit something this petulant and stupid since the AIDS groupies tried to convince the public they would get the disease for not caring enough about the people who already had it.

669 posted on 01/13/2011 1:29:33 AM PST by papertyger
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To: EveningStar
And they are far more thoughtful and rational and informed than most of the people here.

This thread proves otherwise.

670 posted on 01/13/2011 1:31:48 AM PST by papertyger
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To: wtc911
The false charge is the libel.
The libel is employed by some anti-Semites.
These anti-Semites are the libelers.
"Blood libel" is the false charge employed by anti-Semites espousing the libel.
Blood libel cannot be used to describe Jews or any Jewish practice, because it isn't true.
"Blood libel" is a term encapsulating a belief some anti-Semites hold about a practice in which Jewish people do not engage.
Anti-Semites espousing this belief are the "blood libelers."
The term points to the anti-Semites, not the Jewish people.

If you don't understand this, you don't understand the term.


Good luck.

671 posted on 01/13/2011 2:04:54 AM PST by Chunga (Go, Sarah, GO!! - Jim Robinson)
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To: papertyger; BillM; Mr. Silverback
And they are far more thoughtful and rational and informed than most of the people here.

This thread proves otherwise.

It sure does.

I see all of you have been put on a hit list of an anti-freeper.

Don't worry, his support of posters here is a kiss of death.

He has supported numerous banned posters who, incidentally, were all trying to get me banned years ago.

It'a a badge of honor to be pointed out by ES with a false accusation.

The accusation, broad brushed to a long list:

Libeling them and trying to get them banned is seriously sick.
Libel? Pretty harsh charge. Most people that get banned, they do it to themselves.
672 posted on 01/13/2011 3:19:07 AM PST by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: EveningStar

BTW, wtc911 is one of the finest people on this board, as is La Enchilidita.

BWAHAHAHAHahahahahaha *gasp* hahah *thud* *gasp*BWAHAHAHAHAhahahahahhah hhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahahaha

Good one!

(OOps, you were serious. Really? Sorry.)


673 posted on 01/13/2011 6:37:55 AM PST by Peet (Leftists think personal liberty is so important it must be carefully rationed.)
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To: Chgogal; wtc911; Melas; La Enchiladita

To expect 100% agreement is loony.

People who would turn this forum into an echo chamber that forbids all discussion except their own talking points are neither conservatives nor Americans.

The folks you named are far better representatives of conservatism and Americanism than most of the people here.


674 posted on 01/13/2011 9:09:54 AM PST by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: wtc911
It is an arcane phrase which makes palin's use of it even more baffling ??

shirley you jest.

how much perception do we need to understand the use & application of the phrase ??

questioning Sarah's use of it is very baffling.

675 posted on 01/13/2011 9:24:06 AM PST by Psalm_2 (Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:21 NASB)
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To: reaganaut1
CHRONOLOGY OF ANY EVENT:

1) Negative Event Occurs.
2) Immediately blame Sarah Palin.
3) Events unfold showing Sarah Palin not at fault, or even involved.
4) Blame Sarah Palin harder.
5) IF SARAH PALIN DOES NOT RESPOND: Declare her out-of-touch and non-Presidential.

676 posted on 01/13/2011 10:33:54 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz
You forgot 6.

6) IF SARAH PALIN DEFENDS HERSELF: Declare it's all about her because she inserted herself into the conversation.

677 posted on 01/13/2011 10:36:47 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: reaganaut1

CHRONOLOGY OF ANY EVENT:

1) Negative Event Occurs.
2) Immediately blame Sarah Palin.
3) Events unfold showing Sarah Palin not at fault, or even involved.
4) Blame Sarah Palin harder.
5) IF SARAH PALIN DOES NOT RESPOND: Declare her out-of-touch and non-Presidential.
6) IF SARAH PALIN RESPONDS MILDLY: Declare her wishy-washy and incapable of leadership.
7) IF SARAH PALIN RESPONDS FORCEFULLY: Declare her too provocative and incendiary.


678 posted on 01/13/2011 10:45:07 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: EveningStar; wtc911
BTW, wtc911 is one of the finest people on this board, as is La Enchilidita.

Thank you very much, Evening Star. You have my esteem as well, as does wtc911. I think it is very interesting when we can discuss our disagreements and differing points of view.

679 posted on 01/13/2011 12:53:06 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: EveningStar; wtc911; Melas
I stand by my post. Period.

WTC911 and melas were wrong as per one liberal Jew and one conservative Jew.

Period.

Both used democratic/MSM talking points against Palin. I believe both admitted to disliking Palin. That is their choice. It is a free country. But, forgive me for repeating myself, their usage of democratic/msm talking points against a fellow conservative is disgusting and offensive. Whether they are “better” representatives of conservatives than others is your opinion and you have a right to your opinion. You did make a good point about echo chambers. Free Republic does NOT need fellow FRiends to echo the democratic/msm talking points to attack conservative leadership. It's poor strategy. Maybe WTC911 and Melas should follow Reagan's example, “Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.”

680 posted on 01/13/2011 9:14:30 PM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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