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New photo suggests J-20 achieves maiden flight
Flight International ^ | 10/01/11 | Stephen Trimble

Posted on 01/10/2011 7:51:42 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

New photo suggests J-20 achieves maiden flight

By Stephen Trimble

A new photo circulating on aviation web sites indicates China's newest fighter project has achieved first flight.

The maiden flight of the stealthy Chengdu J-20 prototype has been anticipated since the aircraft was revealed in unofficial photos that started appearing on the web in late December.

The new photo shows the J-20 after takeoff with the landing gear still lowered. The aircraft does not appear to be using afterburners in the image. Further details about the aircraft's first sortie are still unknown.

The J-20's sudden appearance took the non-Chinese aviation community by surprise a few weeks ago.

Photo circulating on aviation web sites suggest the Chengdu J-20 has achieved first flight The existence of a Chinese stealth fighter programme has been acknowledged by US defence officials for more than a decade, but not the pace of China's progress in developing a rival to the Lockheed Martin F-22 and F-35.

Some US officials, including retired Lt Gen Tom McInerney, have called for the US to restart F-22 production in response to the J-20's possible new threat.

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates told reporters on 9 January, as he was en route to Beijing for a new round of military-to-military talks, acknowledged the J-20's public unveiling came as a surprise.

"I think that what we've seen is that they may be somewhat further ahead in the development of that aircraft than our intelligence had earlier predicted," Gates says.

(Excerpt) Read more at flightglobal.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; f22; j20
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To: Red Badger

Sort of a “canard” canard, eh. ;-)

DG


21 posted on 01/10/2011 9:58:28 AM PST by DoorGunner (Romans 11:25 ...until the fullness of the Gentiles have come in; 26 and so all Israel will be saved)
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To: DoorGunner

Yes, if they are canard canards, then they must be real!................


22 posted on 01/10/2011 10:06:13 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Next question: Did it land on its wheels or under them?


23 posted on 01/10/2011 10:08:50 AM PST by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy; flowerplough
"While we battle over budgets and priorities the Chinese military modernization program is full speed ahead."

"The Defense Department had long used the mystery of the MiG-25 as a “boogeyman” to scare the government into funding advanced U.S. weaponry.",

While the truth is somewhere in the middle, the bottom line is that America is bankrupt and leadership priorities are focused elsewhere. The United States is well on the path to becoming a second rate military power in the not to distant future. Sad to say, the means and will for America to stay the number one military power are sorely lacking.

24 posted on 01/10/2011 10:25:46 AM PST by buckalfa (Confused and Bewildered With a Glass Half Empty)
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To: Bigh4u2

I agree... my opinion... it has not flown yet.

LLS


25 posted on 01/10/2011 10:27:48 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Tommyjo

Here’s an update, if you could call it that.

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flight-international/2011/01/j-20-—the-camera-doesnt-lie.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


26 posted on 01/10/2011 10:31:37 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: tophat9000

Odd thing about the photo, when jet powered aircraft take off, normally you would see a heat plume coming off the exhaust. In this case, there should be a distortion in the picture around/aft the exhaust nozzle area. Or even flame assuming that this thing would require afterburner during takeoff.


27 posted on 01/10/2011 10:48:48 AM PST by Always Independent
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To: sukhoi-30mki; LibLieSlayer


Ya know. The more I look at it, the more it looks like a model.

It's kinda funny for a plane taking off not to have the flaps down.. Isn't it?

Unless it really doesn't need the 'lift'. /s


28 posted on 01/10/2011 11:18:13 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Always Independent
Yeah, the update link in post 26 discusses whether this is a fake, or not. Chicoms would never lie, would they...? Heh, heh.....
29 posted on 01/10/2011 12:35:46 PM PST by edpc (It's Kräusened)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The art (image of J-20 in flight) was created by well known CGI artist Gao Shan in all good faith. It was subsequently ripped off by another person, photoshopped and posted as real. It is a confirmed fake.

Link to explanation of Photoshopped image

30 posted on 01/10/2011 4:43:31 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

Amazing-i’ve applied for membership to the Society of J-20 skeptics after seeing this!!


31 posted on 01/10/2011 7:49:09 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Update from Chengdu as of 1230 local time from Chinese aircraft enthusiasts. Two VIP Boeing 737s have now landed at Chengdu. Cameras have been set up and manned. The J-20 has completed a high-speed taxi. Security is very tight and is now blocking roads and stopping traffic. A J-10 chase aircraft with a possible camera pod has now flown twice on possible weather sorties.

1243 local - J-20 engine running on runway.

J-20 is now flying with J-10 as chase aircraft as of 1250 local.

TJ


32 posted on 01/10/2011 9:09:56 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

Excellent detective work. Hopefully that will get some people like Kopp and a few here down off the ledge, but I doubt it.


33 posted on 01/10/2011 9:12:51 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation

No problem. I’m just following the microbloggers posting from outside the base. These are being relayed onto several aircraft enthusiast forums.

1300 (Chengdu time) J-20 and J-10 chase aircraft have completed two low passes over the airfield.

1310 - J-20 has landed.


34 posted on 01/10/2011 9:29:15 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Correction to landing time - 1308 (Take off 1250) Chengdu time.

Link to Images 1

Link to Images 2

35 posted on 01/10/2011 9:43:23 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

Thanks. Expecting Paeans to the Motherland now.


36 posted on 01/10/2011 10:16:44 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

No problem. A slight error popped into one of the image links. The very first image is of an F-35.


37 posted on 01/11/2011 7:35:54 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: sukhoi-30mki
J-20 take off video

Some links to better quality images. Probably my eyes, but I can't see a weapons bay? Possibly it will be fielded on the rumoured 2002 airframe?

J-20 Image One

J-20 Image Two

J-20 Image Three

J-20 Image Four

J-20 Image Five

38 posted on 01/11/2011 7:44:40 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Bigh4u2

It looks like a flying Pontiac Catalina


39 posted on 01/11/2011 7:49:13 AM PST by Scythian
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To: sukhoi-30mki

And right when DefSecGates was in Beijing!

The Middle Kingdom’s Dragon just bitchslapped Uncle Sam.

I’m going for Chinese noodles tonight.


40 posted on 01/11/2011 11:30:26 AM PST by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes! Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -America is almost SmokFrei!)
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