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To: meyer
Does a conservative, like yourself, support unsustainable spending...no limits?

Does it matter to you whether the nation can afford these expenditures?

Perhaps you believe we should reduce taxes AND increase spending?

Or, from your "conservative" point of view, perhaps we should reduce military spending so that we can afford to send money to people who already have it?

I know, we should reduce spending as long as it's not your ox getting gored.

Of course, I can understand this perspective for those who were stupid enough to believe that SS was a retirement plan. It's not. It has never been. It has always been a pay-as-you-go welfare program.

57 posted on 01/02/2011 11:08:33 AM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner
Does a conservative, like yourself, support unsustainable spending...no limits?

Where did I propose limitless spending? I didn't. I simply said that redistribution of money through the SS system (which is EXACTLY what "means testing does") is not acceptable. It's communism, period.

Let the freeloaders lose the benefits that they NEVER earned before trying to cut off those that actually paid for this ponzii scheme in the first place. The government, through the SS tax, has stolen nearly $100,000 from me and my employer over the years and I'll be damned if I'm going to stand by and let these idiots try to cut me off while they continue to feed the leeches that never paid in a friggin dime.

You're advocating the exact same thing that Obama wants, and yet you think that you are something resembling a conservative.

72 posted on 01/02/2011 11:20:01 AM PST by meyer (Obama - the Schwartz is with him.)
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To: Mariner

As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose — that it may violate property instead of protecting it — then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder. Political questions will always be prejudicial, dominant, and all-absorbing...

Is there any need to offer proof that this odious perversion of the law is a perpetual source of hatred and discord; that it tends to destroy society itself? If such proof is needed, look at the United States [in 1850]. There is no country in the world where the law is kept more within its proper domain: the protection of every person’s liberty and property. As a consequence of this, there appears to be no country in the world where the social order rests on a firmer foundation.

—Frederic Bastiat, “The Law” 1850
http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html#SECTION_G016


680 posted on 01/03/2011 1:12:25 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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