Posted on 12/22/2010 1:04:20 PM PST by brytlea
President Obama secured another major legislative victory Wednesday with the Senate ratification of a nuclear arms treaty with Russia.
Vice President Biden presided over the Senate's 71-26 vote with Secretary Hillary Clinton in attendance.
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silly me
i don’t know what came over me
I doesn’t require violence...but it does require organization, leadership, and full cooperation. However, I am not convinced Americans have the will to pull it off.
The Roman Empire philosophy was “let them hate, as long as they fear.” It is fear that would preclude Americans from acting in concerted ways, outside of the easy & non-threatening things that are done now (i.e., email, fax, rally).
Why is it good for the USA to agree not to allow converting missile launchers to interceptors, and why did all those ex-Bush security characters say this is such a good deal?
“That can’t be true....FReepers have been telling me for 22 months that if we just call, fax, write, rally, etc., we will prevail.”
Call or write them for what? They have proven over and over and over that they don`t care what the American people say or want, because they are going to do what THEY want to do. Writing them is a waste of the cost of a stamp and calling them is a waste of the cost of the call.
Agreed...& I’ve said it here for 22 months...and been poo-pooed for it.
It’s hard not to blame virtually all of them. Most of our *leaders* are more concerned about getting elected and reelected than anything else. We have darned few who are the sorts of men who founded this country around anymore.
since the obamanation had already released our nuclear sites earlier this week.....what else was there to give Russia? he is a fool, a complete fool.
Well, they usually vote conservative. But they surely didn't this time.
When? Most recently Alexander not only voted for S510, but was a co-sponsor. This is that nice little bill that gives broad power to the FDA (with no judicial recourse) and Monstanto and could effectively outlaw backyard gardens and roadside farm stands, among other things. Nothing Conservative about that boondoggle. Alexander's dalliances to the left side of the aisle go back much farther. He also voted for Medicare Part D, the single largest entitlement program since the (not so) Great Society. Aren't Republicans supposed to stand for limited government? When he was Governor of Tennessee Alexander certainly didn't govern like a Conservative. Corker certainly did not govern as a Conservative when he was Mayor of Chattanooga, either. As Senators both voted for TARP and Alexander voted for Porkulus, too. Alexander has also been trying for years to introduce a bill that would impose a Federal tax on internet sales.
Alexander is a Progressive (although he likes to claim he is a moderate). Corker is leaning more Progressive with every passing day. Their staffs are rude every time I call them. In fact, when I called Alexander's office about his support of S510 two weeks ago they hung up on me! I'm thoroughly disgusted with both of them and cannot wait to vote against them in the primaries in '12 and '14. Review their voting histories and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. They occasionally will side with Conservatives, but more often than not you will find them agreeing with the Progressive Leftists.....
I suppose I prefer to grade on the curve, instead of according to absolutes.
Sens. Corker and Alexander are probably about at the same place on the political spectrum as Bill Frist and Fred Thompson, whom they replaced.
And I would assert that both--pre-START, anyway--have been at roughly the same point on the political spectrum as the average non-New England Republican.
But I certainly agree that the exponential expansion of Medicare benefits, under then-President Bush, was a very bad idea; certainly, one that we cannot afford...
Absolutes? I gave you several examples and could easily give you several dozen more with Alexander. Corker has yet to compound much of a voting record, but I am very familiar with him from his time as Mayor of Chattanooga. I supposed that must be one very steep curve!
Sens. Corker and Alexander are probably about at the same place on the political spectrum as Bill Frist and Fred Thompson, whom they replaced.
Despite his efforts to appear "moderate" Alexander is well left of Frist, who was a political lightweight at best, but Frist also voted for Medicare Part D. Thompson shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Alexander or Frist, IMHO. Make no mistake, Alexander is a Progressive through and through and it's long past time for him to go....
Despite his efforts to appear "moderate" Alexander is well left of Frist, who was a political lightweight at best, but Frist also voted for Medicare Part D. Thompson shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Alexander or Frist, IMHO. Make no mistake, Alexander is a Progressive through and through and it's long past time for him to go....
Perhaps you are more familiar with these senators' voting records than I am. I don't know.
I am unaware, however, of either Sen. Alexander or Sen. Corker having voted differently from the majority of Republicans, as concerning anything of major importance, prior to the recent passage of the ill-conceived START treaty.
Am I mistaken about this?
How many more examples do you need? Just because someone has an “R” after their name doesn’t automatically mean they are voting correctly, Constitutionally and in regard to what is in the best interest of the Republic. The fact that Alexander and Corker have voted in lock step with the rest of the RINO’s is the essence of the problem with those two. They both claim to be Conservatives, yet vote with the RINO’s almost every time. Medicare Part D, TARP, Porkulus, and most recently an unconstitutional “Food Safety Act” are just some of the examples I’ve provided. For example, the so-called “Food Safety Act” had to be voted on twice in the Senate because, apparently, no one in the Senate knew that it is unconstitutional for spending bills to originate in the Senate. As is clearly stated in our Constitution, (Section 7, Clause 1) all spending bills MUST originate in the House of Representatives. This ignorance of the Constitution on Alexander’s part is inexcusable and embarrassing! Alexander not only voted for that bill, he co-sponsored it!
Perhaps this is suggestive of the core problem: You appear to view most Republican senators as mere RINOs, whereas I would argue that there are very few left; and practically none outside of New England. (I suppose a case could be advanced that Sen. John McCain fits the description; but I would dispute that. He seems to me more like a hybrid--left-of-center on some issues, and right-of-center on others--much like his friend, Sen. Joe Lieberman.)
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