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Homeless Squatting In Foreclosed City Homes w/ Video
www.13wham.com ^ | 12/20/2010 | Rachel Barnhart

Posted on 12/21/2010 3:21:43 AM PST by AbolishCSEU

Rochester, N.Y. – The City of Rochester has about 3,000 vacant buildings. Several of them have new occupants – homeless people – who moved in, changed the locks, and turned on the lights.

Legally, they’re known as “squatters,” people who live in a place without a deed or tenant agreement. They’ve been living in the houses for months without anyone noticing.

“It’s just wonderful to have a house, to have heat, to have food in your refrigerator,” said a woman who moved into a three-bedroom house last week with her two children, including a 3-week-old newborn.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banks; foreclosures; homeless
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To: meyer

yep i know. I used to work for gov’t subsidized housing (section 8) and it was sickening.


21 posted on 12/21/2010 4:07:36 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: kearnyirish2
Are you aware of how squatters laws work? It is a legally recognized process that deals with abandoned or vacant property, presumably for a greater common good. I don’t care how the bank chooses to deal with them; they must know the clock is ticking in a legal sense.

Squatter's laws? Is that like adverse possession? You mean if somebody takes up in the house they get to keep it? The town doesn't auction it for taxes? These tax funded law firms make me sick. Tell me I am missing something. So the tax payers pay for the heat, the electricity, food, and law fees?

22 posted on 12/21/2010 4:09:18 AM PST by bobzeetwin
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To: meyer

You’ll notice they never choose to squat in a dump. The homeless could repopulate Detroit and would if the abandoned homes were up to their high standards.


23 posted on 12/21/2010 4:09:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: meyer
Why do think that the house in which these people are "squatting" is nicer and newer than my own domicile?

What would that make me? (I guess a "sucker" at best! :( )

24 posted on 12/21/2010 4:10:56 AM PST by The Duke
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To: meyer

the reason why these houses are vacant in the first place is that the owners can’t sell them and are forced to rent to felonious, uber destructive drug dealers and welfare queens. The tenants move in and it looks as though they are going to be getting subsidized, then the subsidization stops and the tenants simply stop paying rent. The militantly pro tenant agencies and laws then allow the tenants to “squat” in these homes for months while an eviction drags out. If you have an existing mortgage on these houses you are doomed as it literally drains money. Most landlords simply walk away from the property as it is a lose/lose situation. Thus the vacancies. I could NOT sell the house I once lived in due to the drug dealing, prostitution, crime, etc. I rented it out for a few years which was a nightmare, then simply walked away when I could no longer afford to keep it in operation as I had lost my job; the only thing propping up that boat anchor. The sheer destructiveness of tenants who don’t give a damn and are “out to get whitey” is astounding.


25 posted on 12/21/2010 4:12:50 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: meyer
If I were the bank, I’d burn the property before I’d give it away like that.

In a perverse way, reducing the stock of foreclosed properties in such a manner would create some pressure to raise property values for everyone else.

26 posted on 12/21/2010 4:14:45 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: cripplecreek; meyer
Good points from you both.

Seems like so many people want the free ride and won't lift a finger to help them selves.

"Why do you trouble me with such things! The poor are always with us. Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. Render unto the Lord that which is his." Close to the actual verse anyway.

27 posted on 12/21/2010 4:18:54 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Ben Franklin said poverty should be uncomfortable.


28 posted on 12/21/2010 4:21:42 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: AbolishCSEU

Y’know, maybe my thinking’s become twisted by this through-the-looking-glass world we’re living in, but if I were the owner of record of one of these squatted-in homes, I’d be worrying about what kind of liability some judge would level against me if someone or something got hurt or damaged while squatting in my property. You can’t tell me there wouldn’t be some lawyer out there who’d be willing to try to make a case of it, if they thought my pockets were deep enough!


29 posted on 12/21/2010 4:23:04 AM PST by hoosier_RW_conspirator ("Nurture your mind with great thoughts. To believe in the heroic makes heroes." -- Benj. Disraeli)
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator

They’d go after the banks. Just the other day we had a ne’er do well purposely drop soda on the floor of a mall and “slip” on it.


30 posted on 12/21/2010 4:27:53 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator

Some of the state funded law firms would go after you even if you had no money. As long as there is an entitled person willing to fight for anything, the bleeding billable hours will continue. (unless, of course, the Republicans have the balls to stop the funding for the “free” welfare lawyers))


31 posted on 12/21/2010 4:29:10 AM PST by bobzeetwin
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To: meyer
Well, there never really is ‘a’ economic system as the economy, made up of different people with different needs and wants is always a collection of different economies, all of which are in flux, unstable.

Anyway, the owners have abandoned the property, in one way or another, and have signaled that they don't care. For instance, they don't even bother paying a monthly security bill. So, the bums, welfare scum, are putting the property to higher use. Frankly, I'd rather have them live on someones property, a owner who doesn't care, is dead, has abandoned the property, then in a public tax payer, unioned, pensions do-gooder shelter at my expense as a victim of tax crime.

32 posted on 12/21/2010 4:33:14 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: bobzeetwin
(unless, of course, the Republicans have the balls to stop the funding for the “free” welfare lawyers)

From your lips to God's ears...

33 posted on 12/21/2010 4:33:40 AM PST by hoosier_RW_conspirator ("Nurture your mind with great thoughts. To believe in the heroic makes heroes." -- Benj. Disraeli)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed. Should be a motivator to get someone off their dead a^^ and moving forward.


34 posted on 12/21/2010 4:33:45 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: AbolishCSEU
I work, to be taxed to support those that work in Section 8. That's double sickening!
35 posted on 12/21/2010 4:36:25 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: AbolishCSEU

I wonder how much fun it would be to sabotage these houses (non-lethally, of course) to make them unpleasant to live in.


36 posted on 12/21/2010 4:39:23 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: AbolishCSEU
the reason why these houses are vacant in the first place is that the owners can’t sell them and are forced to rent to felonious, uber destructive drug dealers and welfare queens. The tenants move in and it looks as though they are going to be getting subsidized, then the subsidization stops and the tenants simply stop paying rent. The militantly pro tenant agencies and laws then allow the tenants to “squat” in these homes for months while an eviction drags out. If you have an existing mortgage on these houses you are doomed as it literally drains money. Most landlords simply walk away from the property as it is a lose/lose situation. Thus the vacancies. I could NOT sell the house I once lived in due to the drug dealing, prostitution, crime, etc. I rented it out for a few years which was a nightmare, then simply walked away when I could no longer afford to keep it in operation as I had lost my job; the only thing propping up that boat anchor. The sheer destructiveness of tenants who don’t give a damn and are “out to get whitey” is astounding.

Your story has played out many times. I have a friend that owns several rentals. I was looking at buying a double in the inner city one time and he gave me some sound advice - he told me that he NEVER rents to low-income people and never buys homes in marginal neighborhoods. All of his rentals are/were large homes in solid neighborhoods. He also required a significant security deposit. Consequently, he tends to rent to doctors and businessmen rather than drug dealers and such.

I ended up not buying the double, and I'm forever grateful. It was already bad then - it's worse now, I'm sure.

37 posted on 12/21/2010 4:40:15 AM PST by meyer (Hey Obama - It's the end of the world as you know it.... ..... and I feel fine!)
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To: Right Wing Assault

the libs like the guy in the video would sue YOU.


38 posted on 12/21/2010 4:42:17 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: meyer

I advise anyone who is even thinking about buying a rental in the “hood” to RUN not walk away.


39 posted on 12/21/2010 4:42:57 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Right Wing Assault
I wonder how much fun it would be to sabotage these houses (non-lethally, of course) to make them unpleasant to live in.

The entitled person can rig the electrical meter, figure out how to turn on the city water, get food stamps, heat, and a cell phone. No big deal. You, however, are going to have the wrath of all things free and legal upon you if you so much as tip a trash can over. Safety issue. Sanitary issue. Harrassment. Violation of civil rights. Assault. Disorderly conduct.

40 posted on 12/21/2010 4:45:43 AM PST by bobzeetwin
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