[Lazamataz]

...and since you’re merely miffed, this is another victory for Hussein and his cult. Their goal is to make people “get used to it”.

Normally, with the average person, you might be right..... but I base my 'miff level' on research. I went on a fact hunt. It turns out 22 of 26 NATO members have gays openly serving, and of those, there has been no noticable degradation in effectiveness.

That's why I'm only miffed.

[Recovering_Democrat]

Laz, I understand what you’re saying...but I would say that their personnel are not as good as ours because of the social experimentation/mores/values that goes on in their armed forces.

The missions of other NATO nations, whether we like it or not, is different than OUR mission. We are the bad ass, the big dog, the one who does the WORK. They are, for most purposes, doing the small stuff. Their load is not as heavy.

Do we want our military personnel more concerned with killing terrorists or with not offending their fellow soldiers? I think this will turn us into a “small nation” military—if not immediately, then eventually.

Think of the cost: will our military now pay for AIDS treatment for openly gay soldiers? For housing for domestic partners and their health care? For “adoption services” for gays? This is a big hot mess that takes away from the military’s mission.

IMHO.

[OldGoatCPO]

Name a war, since Korea that any of these great NATO militaries have fought in a war where they actually had more than a token force on the ground. Hell without 50,000 or more US troops has any NATO military won a war in the last 50 years? Maybe you could count the Falklands, but the Brits nearly lost that one! Comparing the US military in size and scope to any other countries military is a red herring. For the record, I read the Brits had gays forced on them by the EU courts.

[manc]

having done many NATO exercise and worked with NATO I can honestly say that those NATO nations is not like ours and the only one which could be is the Brits and while they might have the law they do not allow openly serving homosexuals and a blind eye is done if something happens .
Something of which will not happen in ours.