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To: butterdezillion
He is pleading guilty because there is no expectation of justice from the United States military.

But why let them win like that? Why not make the government prove its case? At the very least, we'd be allowed to see what information the government haves that proves that it is in the right. I still think my original claim stands, this guy has no case, and he is just hoping for leniency in sentencing.

The best he can hope for is to just get this over with as quickly as possible so he can appeal in the civilian courts the fact that his due process and 6th Amendment rights were grossly violated.

That won't go anywhere either. No civilian court has ever accepted any sort of challenge to 0bama's eligibility. It is highly unlikely they would for this situation either.

18 posted on 12/14/2010 9:55:24 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102

But why let them win like that? Why not make the government prove its case? At the very least, we’d be allowed to see what information the government haves that proves that it is in the right. I still think my original claim stands, this guy has no case, and he is just hoping for leniency in sentencing.

That won’t go anywhere either. No civilian court has ever accepted any sort of challenge to 0bama’s eligibility. It is highly unlikely they would for this situation either.


When a defendant pleads guilty, whether in a civilian court or a military court martial, they give up their right to appeal.


21 posted on 12/14/2010 10:03:36 AM PST by jamese777
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To: pnh102

The retired military brass are afraid that if the issue of whether Obama can “act as President” is pushed when the military leadership this corrupt, there will be a bad precedent set.

And already, the military judge has said that the Constitutional status of the President is irrelevant to combat orders. That’s a scary precedent right there. If you take that precedent to its logical conclusion, Lakin’s brigade commanders could also have ordered him to deploy for combat operations in Iran, and it would be “irrelevant” whether a valid Commander-in-Chief had ever authorized combat in Iran.

See, the whole case that the military is making is that it doesn’t MATTER whether there is a valid President who authorized combat operations in Afghanistan, because brigade commanders can give all these smaller orders that, when combined, accomplish military combat without there having to be authorization from “the President” (who is given the sole authority to “use force” in the war on terrorism).

And that is a serious, serious claim that should have the military folks saying WTH???!!


23 posted on 12/14/2010 10:07:44 AM PST by butterdezillion
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