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World Net Daily fabricates a "Missile" Contrail tale
Faith, Reason, and Health ^ | 12/12/2010 | Dr. Brian Kopp

Posted on 12/12/2010 10:47:16 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

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To: LucyT

Unless I’m missing something, someone maliciously maligned WND. Tigerseye is all over this. I don’t buy this as being a WND hoax, and I don’t see commercial jets fly in corkscrew patterns. Missiles DO:

Giant Mysterious Spiral Takes Over the Skies of Norway [blast fr. past]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2403889/posts - CachedLight reflected off a Peace Prize medallion thrown into orbit by the ... He told Norwegian media that the missile had likely lost control ...”


321 posted on 12/14/2010 7:34:53 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Where’s the fabrication?


322 posted on 12/14/2010 7:40:35 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Please talk me out of the ‘spiral pattern’ Photobucket Photobucket
323 posted on 12/14/2010 8:33:02 AM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Very confusing and vague.


324 posted on 12/14/2010 8:51:24 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Niteflyr; TigersEye

Not only is the contrail spiralling [and I don’t mean tight ringlets] unlike a commercial jet, but it starts off wide and rapidly narrows. Commercial jet contrails don’t normally do that, do they?


325 posted on 12/14/2010 8:55:39 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Not only is the contrail spiralling [and I don’t mean tight ringlets] unlike a missile, but it starts off wide and rapidly narrows. Missile contrails don’t normally do that, do they?


326 posted on 12/14/2010 8:58:10 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

“Very confusing and vague.”

I don’t know how a reasonable person could be confused about what I posted. Anyway, at 53 seconds of the video, we can see the wingtip vorticies doing their thing to the contrail. In an earlier thread, I explained that in order for the navigation system in guided missiles to function properly and operate the fin control surfaces correctly, the missile CAN’T be spinning.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2010/11/09/exclusive-raw-video-mysterious-missile-launch-off-california-coast/


327 posted on 12/14/2010 9:19:10 AM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Just to add, a missile may have small control rockets instead of control fins, but either way, the platform being controlled can’t be spinning.


328 posted on 12/14/2010 9:30:51 AM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: SeeSac

Commercial jets are fairly uniform. Are all the world’s missiles uniform?


329 posted on 12/14/2010 10:22:24 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

OK, thank you for some meat on the bones there. So if it’s not a missile, is it a special magic jet?


330 posted on 12/14/2010 10:24:48 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

“I don’t know how a reasonable person could be confused about what I posted.” I think most anyone can see for himself how phoney that claim is.


331 posted on 12/14/2010 10:27:08 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Commercial jets are fairly uniform.

Then this is surely a missile:


332 posted on 12/14/2010 10:28:53 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I think most anyone can see for himself how phoney that claim is.

Correct. We see missiles crossing our skies every day and NO one cares.

333 posted on 12/14/2010 10:31:28 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

How is it phony?


334 posted on 12/14/2010 10:35:10 AM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Thanks for the great post! There’s even old NACA (yes, NACA) footage of aircraft of all kinds coming in for landings through red smoke creating just the sort of vortices your graph shows.


335 posted on 12/14/2010 10:38:04 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS
You're welcome. BTW, this magnified image from the CBS video that TXnMA posted in #235, looks a lot like what's supposed to happen when a jet aircraft's wingtip vorticies interact with it's engines' contrail. Photobucket Photobucket
336 posted on 12/14/2010 11:53:06 AM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: SeeSac

That looks normal, especially in comparison to the one Rick Warren showed. Others also have made an issue of the distinct spiral.


337 posted on 12/14/2010 1:06:15 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Others also have made an issue of the distinct spiral.

Since the missile doesn't spin, how would it produce a 'spiral'. I have seen many missile shots and none 'spiral'.

338 posted on 12/14/2010 1:11:41 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Ronald_Magnus

I’ll be as crystal clear as you were initially. If you are well intended, I apologise. But frankly, I run into people who try to push BS on this forum all the time and noticed patterns. All of them hate WND with a white hot passion. Then I find out that some of them brag outside the forum about all the confusion they spread.


339 posted on 12/14/2010 1:11:41 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: SeeSac

I don’t load videos. I don’t even like loading images. Pain in the neck reformatting my browser. But when someone claims a patriotic and religious place like WND is fabricating a hoax and doesn’t back it up [so far as I can see], I do spend a little more time on the subject. Yeah, I know Farah is a little squirrely, but fabrication?


340 posted on 12/14/2010 1:15:01 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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