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Major-General Jia "demanded Australia make changes to the paper or suffer the consequences"

Making those sorts of threats to Aussies just guarantees that they will do whatever it is you don't want them to do.

1 posted on 12/09/2010 11:35:42 PM PST by Dundee
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INdjRCNcZj0
I am with the Aussies anywhere any time.
2 posted on 12/09/2010 11:41:39 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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I wish the world would stop buying the crap they produce, and just let China collapse.


3 posted on 12/10/2010 12:11:00 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Obama has demonstrated to the world the failure of Affirmative Action)
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5 posted on 12/10/2010 12:53:06 AM PST by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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One can see just how strong China is getting. Until now, they only tried to run the military of Taiwan - now it seems that they don’t mind telling countries as far away as Australia what is acceptable.


6 posted on 12/10/2010 1:40:19 AM PST by BobL
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The vice-minister did a 'double take' and noted that Japan had only 16 submarines...

FYI Japan announced in late October they're expanding from 16 to 22 subs.

7 posted on 12/10/2010 1:45:26 AM PST by Strategerist
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China to Australia:

“If you don’t stop saying I’m a bully, I’ll BEAT YOU UP”.


8 posted on 12/10/2010 2:06:43 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy Was Right)
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Kangaroo in a china shop


9 posted on 12/10/2010 4:42:55 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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I love Australia. I love the Australian people. I have family there. I think of them often. I would like to tell China what I think. Being I could offend them (China), I will keep my thoughts to myself this A.M. I have already made a terrible mistake on another thread yesterday. I had best not tick off China, at this time. Another time China may draw my wrath, should China do something for which my wrath should be unleashed. I sit like a tied up dog, after having received my whipping, this A.M. I will remind China that this dog can, once in a while remove the leash, if necessary.


11 posted on 12/10/2010 5:38:58 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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China is going to stop selling them cheap crap?


12 posted on 12/10/2010 5:39:19 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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The Chinese outnumber the Aussies 65 to 1.


13 posted on 12/10/2010 5:46:44 AM PST by delapaz
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The defense umbrella Obama is holding has sprung a lot of holes.


17 posted on 12/10/2010 6:09:00 AM PST by AU72
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Australia and New Zealand are part of the ANZUS defense treaty ( and yes, US stands for USA ).

So far, only the Aussies are committed to a strong military ( not sure about the Kiwis ).

When I was living there for a few years, they had the Australian Submarine Project, the Australian Frigate Project, the Jindalee Over the Horizon Radar Project and a whole host of F-16 fighter purchases.

They are also increasingly being asked by the UN to shoulder peace and order in their area ( they had to send troops to defend the East Timorese from the Indonesians ).

And oh yeah, the Israelis and Singaporeans do joint military excercises with the Aussies ( a lot of them in the outback ).

So yes, military build-up is right. But what are the Chinese complaining about ? Self-defense is the right of every country.


18 posted on 12/10/2010 6:37:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Dundee; Arthur Wildfire! March

You know, the wikileaks thing is a mixed blessing.....

Some of this stuff is good to know.

And the nice thing is, is the libs can’t blame it on the Tea Party or right-wing extremist kooks as they would if some conservative group leaked it.


19 posted on 12/10/2010 7:13:30 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Chinese furious at (Australian) military build-up

B-O-O H-O-O.

20 posted on 12/10/2010 7:55:34 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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Up yours China! Time to listen to the great tribute song to the Diggers by Beccy Cole:

Poster Girl

22 posted on 12/10/2010 8:49:16 AM PST by Reagan is King
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Making those sorts of threats to Aussies just guarantees that they will do whatever it is you don't want them to do.

I wonder if the Chinese even know the rule about NO POOFTERS ?

23 posted on 12/10/2010 10:17:45 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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Making those sorts of threats to Aussies just guarantees that they will do whatever it is you don't want them to do.

Got your back, mate.

We'll see those bastards down the road a bit, no matter what we do now.

27 posted on 12/10/2010 1:38:31 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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Growing pains of a rising power. The Chinese undoubtedly see an increase in Australian capabilities as an extension of U.S. power in the region.


28 posted on 12/10/2010 3:59:54 PM PST by americanophile
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Chinese furious at (Australian) military build-up (Wikileaks)

C'mon, you're misleading people with your title. The Chinese aren't furious because Australia is building up their military. Re-read the article again. The Chinese are furious because in the white paper, THE AUSTRLIANS ARE STATING THAT CHINA HAS AN OUTSIZED MILITARY. So, c'mon, this is how propaganda like yours gets spread.

Australia is a nation with a little over 20 million people vs China with 1.4 billion (albeit Austrlia is a developed nation and China is still a developing one). However, anyone with common sense can see, in the long run, and taking into account China's rapid industrialization, that China isn't going to feel threatened by Australia.

I like the Auzzies, but lets not get carried away with Auzzie bravado.

The biggest threat from the Auzzies is not her own military, but her contribution in bringing the US, Japan, India, Russia, South Korea to form a united front. And that is why China is furious at Austrlia. Australia had previous acted as a buffer against such a united front, but becoming less so.

So, c'mon, lets get real here. In the long, Beijing fears the united front, not 12 Australian submarines.

29 posted on 12/10/2010 5:13:37 PM PST by ponder life
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God bless the Aussies.


31 posted on 12/11/2010 11:11:40 AM PST by dr_who
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