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Breaking: House Passes "Dream Act"

Posted on 12/08/2010 6:22:20 PM PST by Skeez

House passes immigration bill known as "Dream Act" 216 to 198


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; amnesty2; deamact; dreamact; illegals; moredemvoters
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To: Darksheare

But how do you know/recognize trolls?


261 posted on 12/09/2010 8:02:56 AM PST by ReverendJames (Only a lawyer and a painter can change black to white)
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To: petitfour

Oh yes, it’s always for the children.
And the left uses children as an excuse for all kinds of evil.
So please spare me that tired lie.

The Elian Gonzalez fiasco is actually quite different.
He lived, his mother did not.
The law at the time stated that if the escapee from the workers paradise of Cuba actually made it to America, they could stay.
Clinton and Janet Reno decided to placate old Fidel and send him back.
Nevermind that he did make it to the US as the law at the time dictated.
And he had family here already.
So that is an invalid point.

It is not compassion for youth to agree to the destruction of America as the Deam Act is intended.
You claim not to support it, yet you keep claiming you have “compassion”.
Sorry, your words lie.


262 posted on 12/09/2010 8:05:28 AM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: ReverendJames

Usually they tend to toss lefty talking points out there.
And they try to be clever about it.
They evade direct answers, they try to redirect the discussion, they make hyperbole comments and exaggerate the situation.
Or, in some cases, they come right out and make outrageous racist comments.
Usually those guys are posting someplace else and linking back to their own comments as prooof that conservatives are racists.
(Little Green Footballs is famous for that one.)
There are lots of ways to tell, the formula for detection isn’t really easy to eplain in one post.
Some of it is learne through experience as well.
We had a Delphi Technique troll here the other day, he was a college professor (according to his facebook page he was a “rhetoritician”) in Vancouver.
We also have seen the rise of the “concerned troll”.


263 posted on 12/09/2010 8:13:37 AM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: petitfour

“I suppose I should have expected to be attacked for standing up for children.”

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I’m sure you are equally concerned for the American citizen children who will be robbed to pay for this travesty.

They will be paying for this all of their lives.


264 posted on 12/09/2010 8:17:43 AM PST by EyeGuy (RaceMarxist Obama: The Politics of Vengeance)
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To: EyeGuy; petitfour

The troll has no compassion for the children of AMERICANS.
This is quite clear from their posts.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2639584/posts?page=30#30
They also say FR is a right wing extremist site.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2638230/posts?page=19#19
Wal-Mart is a Homeland Security subsidiary.. really. they said so.

They are a troll.


265 posted on 12/09/2010 8:21:39 AM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare

“I suppose I should have expected to be attacked for standing up for children.”

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And this quote exhibits it’s disdain for the FR community.

Why would it “expect” to be attacked here for ....ahem....”standing up for children”. According to the Left’s diseased calculus are we now hater of children? All children, or just “minority” children “of color”?

The Left remains fully stocked with clueless ignoramuses, too stupid to realize their own transparency.


266 posted on 12/09/2010 8:28:56 AM PST by EyeGuy (RaceMarxist Obama: The Politics of Vengeance)
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To: northwinds

nonsense.

ANY child becomes an anchor baby up to the age of 30 YEARS OLD. And this is just serial amnesty!


267 posted on 12/09/2010 8:32:24 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: EyeGuy

Well, remember back during the Clinton years they kept claiming that conservatives wanted to starve children and the elderly.
(Yet their government takeover of healthcare will euthanize the elderly.)
It is always ‘for the children’, and if that doesn’t work, the race card comes out.
Barring that, they pull out the “we have a moral obligation to [insert stupidity here]” card.
Being that we catch them so often online, that is why they want to regulate/confiscate/and control the internet and content thereof.

Getting back to our subject at hand, our trolls on this thread don’t know how to blend in because they don’t know what conservative is let alone how one would think.

You noted their disdain for us too?


268 posted on 12/09/2010 8:35:15 AM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare

Well guess it’ll take a bit of time to notice those things.


269 posted on 12/09/2010 8:49:35 AM PST by ReverendJames (Only a lawyer and a painter can change black to white)
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To: ReverendJames

Sometimes they are far more obvious.
Odds are good that you will see a few in the coming months.


270 posted on 12/09/2010 8:54:20 AM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare

Good post.

Several of the points you make are worthy of entire lengthy threads.

At root, the Left disdains individual freedom.


271 posted on 12/09/2010 9:05:36 AM PST by EyeGuy (RaceMarxist Obama: The Politics of Vengeance)
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To: Darksheare

Good post.

Several of the points you make are worthy of entire lengthy threads.

At root, the Left disdains individual freedom.


272 posted on 12/09/2010 9:05:46 AM PST by EyeGuy (RaceMarxist Obama: The Politics of Vengeance)
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To: EyeGuy
They disdain individual freedom, for everyone BUT themselves.
The mind numbed masses that follow them don't see it.
Heck, the old forum pet Murrymom exploded in anger every time you asked her about her taxes.
Then one fine day she declared that paying higher taxes was worth it to ‘stick it to the man’..
*cough*
So there are two things at work there with the left.
Camp followers blindly committing suicide by tax, and their much worshiped leaders with their mental pathology.
273 posted on 12/09/2010 10:13:55 AM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: raybbr

That’s it - the pro-US spirit of young people whose parents were no doubt illegal (and still are).

Go Team!


274 posted on 12/09/2010 10:35:15 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: petitfour; All
I also see children who are innocent pawns, and it is immoral. Why would I want to send good kids back to a hell hole?

The children that are American citizens are the innocent pawns.

Their education is being sidestepped in favor of the children of illegal insurgent criminal invading colonists.

Who are bringing their hell hole here to the USA.

If having compassion for youth who are just like my own children makes me a troll, then so be it.

We can't take in every third world child to educate here at the expense of children who are solid American citizens with parents that are not criminals.

Going with your sentiments, perhaps we should annex Mexico as the 58th state and exploit their natural resources to bring their country up to the standards of the US instead of lowering our standards because the illegal parents won't take responsibility for their own country's shortcomings and do something about it.

If all the immigration rules and laws were enforced here the criminal invaders would have no choice but to go back to their country.

What a great chance for them (millions strong) to march on the elites and throw them to the curb and take their country back!

Instead of making us have to take ours back from them.

It ain't easy to fix your own house, but it should be the first priority...for the children.

275 posted on 12/09/2010 10:36:08 AM PST by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: Darksheare; ReverendJames

And when leftist trolls are proven utterly wrong with sources, facts and so on - they become silent. They never admit they are proven wrong.

Then after a while, they pop up with the exact same proven-wrong lies, often on another thread. Just as though their lies had not be pulverized.

That’s a constant with them.


276 posted on 12/09/2010 10:51:14 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: petitfour

Any American who wants to and can afford it can adopt children from other countries. That’s how they or you can show your compassion for children from other countries.

The kind of “compassion” you’re talking about is - and this is simple - (1) USING OTHER PEOPLES’ MONEY!!!! Which is pure leftist crap. (2) Enabling criminal acts. Rewarding crime. And, as any parent or animal owner knows, when you reward bad behavior, guess what! You get MORE of it!

If you haven’t seen the crime statistics for illegals, you owe it to yourself and everyone you’ve argued with to study up.


277 posted on 12/09/2010 10:59:35 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Yeah, just checked on a troll who has a comprehension issue.
He’s been selected as the new forum pet.
He doesn’t know it yet.


278 posted on 12/09/2010 11:55:29 AM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks for that heads up. Seems like I’m now ok with the moderator. No waiting for my posts to be seen.


279 posted on 12/09/2010 12:26:56 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only a lawyer and a painter can change black to white)
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To: Windflier
I can only go by what is being reported in the various news services. I have repeatedly heard for the last week by those that are suppose to know that this will not pass the senate. This is all posturing by house Dems in order to appease their liberal base, but that it has no way of passing the senate. We will find out Thursday if this is true.
280 posted on 12/09/2010 1:15:27 PM PST by Nosterrex
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