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CableGate's Grand Illusion
American Thinker ^ | 12/7/2010 | Vasko Kohlmayer

Posted on 12/07/2010 3:23:25 PM PST by Sioux-san

Governments around the world want you to believe something utterly fantastic. They want you to believe that the actions of Julian Assange pose a great danger to you and everyone else on the globe.

Hillary Clinton spoke for them all when she said that WikiLeaks disclosures are "not just an attack on America's foreign policy interests, [but] an attack on the international community: the alliances and partnerships, the conversations and negotiations that safeguard global security and advance economic prosperity."

Nothing could be farther from the truth. Assange's act is not an attack on the peoples of the world... it's an attack on a very narrow group of people-- on the world's governing elites, because it shows them for what they truly are: liars, hypocrites, schemers, incompetents, egomaniacs, thieves, and murderers.

Please remember that these are the same people who cast themselves as the custodians of public good. These are the same characters who routinely position themselves as paragons of virtue and wisdom. These are the same leaders who demand people's obedience, allegiance, and money.

Assange let the cat out of the bag. This is a good thing. People's eyes need to be opened, because we trust our governments way too much. People should know what their leaders are made of. The WikiLeaks revelations will no doubt come as a shock to those who think that governments are populated by angelic and benevolent public servants who always act in the public interest. The sad state of the world today is to a great degree due to the fact that too many harbor this belief.

Some will argue that it is not good when people lose trust in their political leaders. This, however, is a misguided objection. It is always dangerous to trust in politicians and give them authority and power...

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1 posted on 12/07/2010 3:23:28 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

Wikileaks has no moral authority to publish lists of American vulnerabilities. What does this disclosure do to expose hypocrisy and corruption? None whatsoever. Instead it reveals the leakers as scalawags who indiscriminately overturn apple carts with no regard to the damage being done to legitimate state security. At best they are brazen anarchists. Most probably they are totalitarian revolutionaries bent on pulling down democracies everywhere, but especially the United States.


2 posted on 12/07/2010 3:30:06 PM PST by the_Watchman (Healthcare reform was never about health.)
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To: Sioux-san

Assange is an anarchist intent on creating chaos.


3 posted on 12/07/2010 3:31:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Sioux-san

Howw Huumm!! Yawn

I am ready for Assange to release the important stuff, the beginnings of “records gate”. It is out there, and Jan. 3rd and the 112th Congress approaches. A new power balance, will any have the balls to open this can of worms?? We shall see.


4 posted on 12/07/2010 3:31:29 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: the_Watchman
Most probably they are totalitarian revolutionaries bent on pulling down democracies everywhere, but especially the United States.

Dead on. Anarchists are a tried and true tool of totalitarians. Generally too stupid to recognize that they help bring about exactly the opposite of what they think they want.
5 posted on 12/07/2010 3:34:29 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: the_Watchman
Most probably they are totalitarian revolutionaries bent on pulling down democracies everywhere, but especially the United States.

Please tell me you're joking. Or at least on crack.

6 posted on 12/07/2010 3:39:30 PM PST by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: the_Watchman

If telegraphing America’s vulnerabilities is illegal, then half of congress and the entire executive branch needs to be prosecuted.


7 posted on 12/07/2010 3:41:05 PM PST by blackdog
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To: Texas Fossil

I have not seen or heard one bit of comment on many of these documents being raw information or opinion instead of fact. How much of it could also be disinformation deliberately archived?


8 posted on 12/07/2010 3:43:34 PM PST by blackdog
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To: Sioux-san

If Assange was just leaking nothing but sniping and lying between Governments, people, and true crimes then this author would have a point. Instead he is releasing information beyond that and there in lies the danger. This author is willing trade some security to out what we all already knew about governments and politicians.


9 posted on 12/07/2010 3:46:43 PM PST by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: aft_lizard

It certainly doesn’t do us any favors on the diplomatic front.


10 posted on 12/07/2010 3:50:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: blackdog
disinformation

Possibly, but suspect most is not. Fact that they targeted Der Hilderbeast is significant. Indicates Obozo involvement. Now we are a step further. Assange = Cryptologist?? Who trained him? Understand he is Australian. We shall see who he really is soon.

11 posted on 12/07/2010 3:51:04 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: blackdog

” then half of congress and the entire executive branch needs to be prosecuted. “

I could get behind that....


12 posted on 12/07/2010 3:53:04 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Sioux-san
The WikiLeaks affair shows the duplicity, the incompetence, and the ugly reality of government here and everywhere. May we wake up and realize that the way to save ourselves is not by silencing Julian Assange, but by taking power away from the governing class that oppresses and preys upon us. To the extent that this fiasco spurs us on this quest, we should be thankful.

Well said, it is a tempest in a teapot. Now it seems like this Assange dude is so dangerous, that he is being tried fro the heinous crime of letting a condom slip or something or other.

13 posted on 12/07/2010 3:53:09 PM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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To: cripplecreek

Most probably they are totalitarian revolutionaries bent on pulling down democracies everywhere, but especially the United States.

Dead on. Anarchists are a tried and true tool of totalitarians. Generally too stupid to recognize that they help bring about exactly the opposite of what they think they want.

5 posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:34:29 PM by cripplecreek


Assange is just another useful idiot that BO used to WikiLeak info damaging to the US and our Allies.

How anyone can say that BO’s WikiLeaks of the names, families and GPS locations of our Allies in Afghanistan or our Allies against other middle east Terrorists is beyond belief.


14 posted on 12/07/2010 3:53:37 PM PST by FS11
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To: Sioux-san
Vasko Kohlmayer appears to be rather doltish.

When Assange published a list of critical facilities that included the factory where my insulin is produced he attacked me in a very personal way.

I would be justified grabbing that puke, or any of his friends and associates, or even any of his hangers on, or maybe even Vasko, and treating them to a traditional Mohawk prisoner execution ceremony.

That's just for starters.

15 posted on 12/07/2010 3:56:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Texas Fossil

In hindsight, think about how effective disinformation can be in the modern day internet forum, when it’s part of candestine top secret document dump?


16 posted on 12/07/2010 4:07:51 PM PST by blackdog
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To: the_Watchman

“What does this disclosure do to expose hypocrisy and corruption?”

Quite a lot actually, if you have been reading many of the postings about them.

Not so much vis-a-vis the U.S., but from the foreign sources discussed and quoted in the cables, many foreign nations are shown at many times to be living examples of “hypocrisy and corruption”, taking public positions that seem very much at odds with the U.S. while privately, with our diplomats, taking very different positions.

And, in the “climate” summit cables, the entire process, including our own, demonstrated global buying and selling of favors for votes at the summit.

But, yes, in many ways, the cables demonstrate most what we Conservatives have known about many of our so-called “allies” and “partners”; they are dominated by two-faced leaders and two-faced leading national groups selling themselves as most interested in the “public interest” in global terms, while demonstrating in private they are the most ruthless seekers of nationalist advantage and purely national self-interest.

We have said that China has been helping North Korea and Iran gain and exchange nuclear technology. There are cables that confirm knowledge about this. That is not bad for us.

We have said other Middle East nations are as concerned about Iran’s nuclear program as we are. The cables confirm that. That is not bad for us.

Most of the juciest revelations have sided the same way, confirming a U.S. position as based on knowledge.

I don’t like the theft.

I don’t like our sloppy security that permitted it.

I don’t like the motive of the guy who made it all public.

I think we should demand he be handed over to us - they were our cables - and he be tried here.

However, at the end of the day, I think most of the cables have made the U.S. at least look better than the foreigners that the cables deal with.


17 posted on 12/07/2010 4:12:50 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Sioux-san

The more Liberal Globalist one is...the more they are upset with Assange.

I wonder if those who are so quick to hang Assange...feel the same way about the people who hacked and released the ClimateGate e-mails that exposed the fraud committed by the Global Warming Hoax crowd? Maybe we should hang those people, too?

It is kind of troubling that people are so quick to come to the support of Hillary Clinton and all the other Liberal/Liberal Globalists who got outed on the e-mails


18 posted on 12/07/2010 4:24:11 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Communist Chinese workers aren't paying for those welfare and unemployment benefits)
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To: Wuli

Actual quote from me: “Wikileaks has no moral authority to publish lists of American vulnerabilities. What does this disclosure do to expose hypocrisy and corruption? None whatsoever.”

You took my quote out of context then proceeded to answer a bunch of your own questions. I still contend that the disclosure of American vulnerabilities; e.g., power lines, dams, communication grids, clearly serves no purpose other than to weaken the security of the U.S. and her allies.

To make such a disclosure under the cover of “exposing hypocrisy” is the height of cynicism.


19 posted on 12/07/2010 4:26:14 PM PST by the_Watchman (Healthcare reform was never about health.)
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To: Hardraade

I am not joking and I am clearly not on crack.

These Wikileaks folks are no different than the Global Warming advocates who wish to shove a potato up our tailpipe to turn off our industrial capacity and choke us with unnecessary energy costs.

What they are doing is far different from their stated “noble” goals. They are the epitome of “saboteurs” who throw their shoes aimlessly into the machinery of society vainly hoping to somehow make things better.


20 posted on 12/07/2010 4:30:41 PM PST by the_Watchman (Healthcare reform was never about health.)
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