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To: A'elian' nation
You nailed it. FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY Tactically, republicans had no reason to make a deal with Obama. We had ALL the cards. Obama would have had to completely fold next month. Would he really veto a republican tax bill and as a result raise everyone’s taxes? I think the only reason the republican leadership made a deal with Obama NOW is so that they won’t have to face the new Tea Party congress with this issue later.

Are you people crazy? All the cards? Look at the reality. We are still the minority party in ALL THREE segments of our government right now, and the RATS STILL hold 2/3rds of the government AFTER the new congress is sworn in. Do you not understand that the new Republicans elected don't take office until next year and that Nancy Pelosi still runs the show in the House? How the HELL are you going to get anything at all done without framing it in a way that you can adjust once you have the POWER to do so? That power is coming, albeit limited since we don't have the Senate (but control the negative view of government since we're still the minority) . I'm surprised at how so many Freepers these days don't grasp reality and am seriously beginning to question that most of you aren't left wing bloggers employed by the Carter Center and other liberal subterfuge outlets to confuse normally clear thinking individuals.

Think about this for a moment: Barack Obama just conceded his biggest campaign pledge while still holding an 59 seat majority in the Senate and a HUGE majority in the House. And yet you still think that a LOSS? Look at the big picture, and quit thinking inside your own little immediate satisfaction world.

28 posted on 12/06/2010 5:25:04 PM PST by GOP_Muzik (If all the world's a stage then I want different lighting)
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To: GOP_Muzik
Think about this for a moment: Barack Obama just conceded his biggest campaign pledge while still holding an 59 seat majority in the Senate and a HUGE majority in the House. And yet you still think that a LOSS?

The moonbat left has every reason in the world to consider this an ignoble defeat.

Conservatives have every reason to consider it a win. The GOP is outnumbered by a large margin in both houses, yet still forced a major concession from the President. One that is, by any measure, "the right thing to do" -- while yielding little in comparison.

We should be celebrating, not complaining.

29 posted on 12/06/2010 5:35:12 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: GOP_Muzik

I fully understand that the newly elected republicans do not take office until next month. Even so, tactically, we still hold all the cards, unless you assume that Obama will veto the Bush tax extension. In which case he would do it in the lame duck or the new congress.

It’s called the Big Bluff. Obviously, you’ve never played cards. What did the republicans gain by dealing now? The republicans folded because they want to get tax cuts, jobless benefits, and raising the debt ceiling done now rather than facing those issues with the new tea party congress.


43 posted on 12/07/2010 7:43:50 AM PST by A'elian' nation ( America is Exceptional - the only nation of people who escaped from theirs.)
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