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Ron Paul’s Diem Mirabilis
National Review Online ^ | 12/03/2010 | Daniel Foster

Posted on 12/03/2010 12:29:06 PM PST by OldDeckHand

In the space of 24 hours, Rep. Ron Paul (R., Texas) has voted for tax hikes, against censure for Charlie Rangel, and defended Julian Assange.

Just sayin’.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: libertarian; paul
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To: jerry557

So, in a ‘free society’ it is OK to steal something from someone else (even if it is just information) or commit treason (Bradley or the hackers) IF someone out there claims a moral high ground that it is ‘truth’.

Our nuclear secrets are ‘truth’ per say, maybe they should stolen and published for the world to see?


21 posted on 12/03/2010 12:53:46 PM PST by mnehring
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To: dirtboy
Your average Paultard probably applauds what Assange is doing.

Mike Church is taking a libertarian position and seeming to let Assausage get a pass as well.

To be accurate, to vote against the Nancy version of the partial extension of the Bush era tax cuts is hardly a vote "against" tax cuts, specifically or generally.

Likewise to vote for an amendment to change the censure to a reprimand and then, that amendment failing, voting for a censure isn't accruately described by NRO.

As a conservative that has been a critic of doctrainaire, ideological libertarianism quit often, I have a lot of problems the the Libertarian Party. I have likewise found the Liberty Caucus and self-styled libertarian Republican Ron Paul to be a troublesome as the worst leftist in Defense issues in general, but this blog is painting with a broad brush and as others have said, may be acting like National Rommney Online.

After a reading of the Espionage Act by Mark Levin, I think the WikiLeaks head can be charged with espionage as a foreign national and should be.

22 posted on 12/03/2010 12:54:49 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: GeronL; OldDeckHand

Ha ha! You both have good points.


23 posted on 12/03/2010 12:56:02 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: jerry557
The Manhattan Project was the truth, but everyone knowing it would have been big trouble...
24 posted on 12/03/2010 12:56:49 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: November 2010
Quit yer lyin.

Paul voted for censure of Rangel.

Paul voted for a motion to change "censure" to "reprimand." So he tried to stop Rangel from being censured. When that motion lost he gave in and voted for censure, but it wasn't the outcome he wanted.

He voted for extending the middle class tax cuts.

Yeah, Ron Paul and Nancy Pelosi are big tax-cutters. Get real. The Pelosi-Paul team voted to keep taxes the same for lower income levels but jack rates on "the rich". Nice class warfare there, buddy.

25 posted on 12/03/2010 12:56:53 PM PST by Crichton
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To: jerry557

So in other words, Ron Paul believes that the strategic foreign policy planning between the POTUS, Dept. of Defense, State Dept. and Joint Chiefs of Staff ... should be publicly furnished to Ahmadinejad, Putin, Jong Il, etc?


26 posted on 12/03/2010 12:57:14 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (I'm with Jim DeMint ... on the fringe!)
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To: Crichton

So he voted for censure and against tax increases. Paul always votes against tax increases. He’s never voted for one.


27 posted on 12/03/2010 1:01:16 PM PST by November 2010
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To: mnehring; KC Burke
He voted against Pelosi’s limited extension for only ‘middle class’,

Ron Paul voted FOR Pelosi's tax hike scheme.

http://michellemalkin.com/2010/12/02/dems-screw-the-wealth-producers-bill-passes-pelosi-gloats/

28 posted on 12/03/2010 1:02:28 PM PST by Crichton
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To: November 2010
Paul always votes against tax increases. He’s never voted for one.

He just did.

Unless you believe that Nancy Pelosi is a tax-cutter?

29 posted on 12/03/2010 1:03:51 PM PST by Crichton
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To: mnehring
"Our nuclear secrets are ‘truth’ per say, maybe they should stolen and published for the world to see?"

You've taken the words out of my mouth. Paul, and his ilk, think the world be a better place without any secrets. The problem is all this would mean is that America would be a place with no secrets, while our enemies - and yes Ron, we have enemies - would hold onto theirs. It's idiotic.

Moreover, Paul ignores the fact that foreign leaders tell us things in confidence, and agree to things in confidence. Why? Because sometimes those leaders have but a tenuous hold on their own country, barely keeping at bay the crazy-ass muzzies who literally want to blow the world up. When that leader is exposed the way the Yemeni leader was exposed in this recent leak, it makes the world a more dangerous place, and it hurts our national security. Ron Paul doesn't believe in national security, apparently.

30 posted on 12/03/2010 1:04:15 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: November 2010

You’re not seriously going to put up facts against an internet blogger’s one and a partial sentence opinion are you?


31 posted on 12/03/2010 1:04:52 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: OldDeckHand

Perhaps this blurb is totally untrue.


32 posted on 12/03/2010 1:05:11 PM PST by eleni121
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To: Crichton
Holy Carp you are right! I just checked the House vote record.(that's what I get for actually believing some Paultard spin I read on another site)...

Ron Paul voted with Pelosi and against the Republicans. In other words, Ron Paul voted to raise taxes on anyone making more than $250K..

So much for his claim he 'never votes to raise taxes'. (about as BS as some of his other claims.)

33 posted on 12/03/2010 1:06:43 PM PST by mnehring
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To: OldDeckHand

What a douche. Here’s hoping Rand fell faaaaaaar from the tree.


34 posted on 12/03/2010 1:07:22 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: OldDeckHand

RP isn’t a libertarian, he’s a contrarian. If this gets him yet another shot on the Alex Jones show, he’ll be happy.


35 posted on 12/03/2010 1:08:23 PM PST by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: Crichton

Paul voted for a tax increase by voting against a tax increase. That makes sense to you? I’m tired of the game of mischaracterizing votes and statements which this National Review guy did in spades. The writer should be ashamed of himself. What Paul did was not go along with the Republican House leadership’s strategy. That is not the same as voting to increase taxes and the writer of the article knows it. So do you.


36 posted on 12/03/2010 1:09:16 PM PST by November 2010
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To: eleni121
"Perhaps this blurb is totally untrue."

Or, perhaps not.

Foster published an comment later in the story I posted. It says in part...

"...Paul voted against censure before he voted for it. He voted for a net tax hike, period. And I'll leave it to readers to decide if Paul was merely stating the technicality that Assange can't be prosecuted for treason because he's Australian...."

If you want to explore what Paul said about Wikileaks, you might want to start with this story...

December 3, 2010 Texas Rep. Ron Paul: Don’t prosecute WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange

Maybe it's me, but that seems like a full-throated defense of Assange.

37 posted on 12/03/2010 1:10:56 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Maybe that’s why Libtard and Libertarian sound somewhat alike. There may well be reasons consistent in Ron Paul’s mind that justify each of those votes. At the same time, there’s more to the world than conforming with Ron Paul’s world view. Unfortunately, libtards tend to pass laws to make you conform while poor old Ron just tilts at the windmills.


38 posted on 12/03/2010 1:11:01 PM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: OldDeckHand

What I think this is about is a campaign to keep Paul from a chairmanship where he can question the Federal Reserve. Paul should be in the chairmanship and he is the guy to ask the questions. He’s a political maverick and he’s the guy to do it. They don’t want that apparently.


39 posted on 12/03/2010 1:11:43 PM PST by November 2010
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To: November 2010
Paul voted for a tax increase by voting against a tax increase. That makes sense to you?

He voted for the bill that raises taxes on anyone making over $250K per year but extends the tax cuts for people making less than $250K per year. That was Pelosi's bill he voted for. The Republican alternative, which he rejected, extended the tax cut to all tax payers.

In other words, the result of the bill Paul voted for is that people making over $250K will see an increase in their taxes.

40 posted on 12/03/2010 1:12:13 PM PST by mnehring
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