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To: jamese777

I suggest you read the federal rules of evidence. Self authenticating document procedure is never used unless the document itself is physically non existent, stolen, or otherwise missing.And generally there is a non authenticated true copy in issue.

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JUST PRODUCE THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTATION ON FILE.

And do not forget to self authenticate yourself when you need to ,whenever you get the urge, and KY lube is cheap!


79 posted on 12/04/2010 7:42:25 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/brack_obama_ipthe_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

I suggest you read the federal rules of evidence. Self authenticating document procedure is never used unless the document itself is physically non existent, stolen, or otherwise missing.And generally there is a non authenticated true copy in issue.

Buahahahahahahahahaha!

JUST PRODUCE THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTATION ON FILE.

And do not forget to self authenticate yourself when you need to ,whenever you get the urge, and KY lube is cheap!


“Under Rule 902(a) of the Federal Rules of Evidence, an exception exists for a select group of documents where no authentication is required in order for the document to be admissible as evidence. Self-authenticating documents in which authenticity is not a prerequisite to admissibility include: (i) acknowledged documents (documents that are notarized or sworn under oath); (ii) newspapers or magazines; (iii) trade inscriptions; (iv) commercial papers or documents; and (v) public records or official records with proper certification.”
http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/self-authenticating_documents

At any point in time, a grand jury investigation conducted in any state where Obama’s name was on the ballot could have been convened and Obama’s original, vault copy, long form birth certificate could have been subpoenaed along with depositions or in person testimony under oath from elected and appointed officials in the Hawai’i government.

I suggest that you read Hawai’i Revised Statutues 338-18 (b) point 9 which says that a birth record can be released without the permission of the person named on the record to: “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction.”


“There have been numerous requests for Senator Barack Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai’i Revised Statute 338-18) prohibits the release of a birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
Therefore I, as Director of Health for the state of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statuatory authority to oversee and maintain these types of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has Senator Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the state of Hawai’i.”—Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of Health, state of Hawai’i, October 31, 2008.


“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i state Department of Health verifying that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October, 2008, more than eight months ago.”—Dr. Chiyome Fukino, July 27, 2009

“You know, during the campaign I was in the mainland campaigning for Senator McCain. This issue kept coming up so much during the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country.
And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background go and personally view the birth ceritificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time stating that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawai’i. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and email and want to make it an issue.
And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction by the people who continue this. It’s been established. He was born here.”—Governor of Hawai’i Linda Lingle, May 4, 2010.


81 posted on 12/04/2010 10:28:04 AM PST by jamese777
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