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To: Mr Inviso
Why did it have to be “rogue”?

Exactly. It was an ICBM - not a firecracker. You CAN'T "accidentally" "cook off" that level of missile. For reasons obvious to a 4th grader, the launch sequence is divided and divided again to require a team process, commanded by top officers with top clearance.

We fired it, and we did it on purpose.

What the purpose of such a massively witnessed, yet massively denied, launch was... is the real question. As is whether the goal of the mission succeeded, or failed - and why.

22 posted on 11/30/2010 1:01:10 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: Talisker; TXnMA
What the purpose of such a massively witnessed, yet massively denied, launch was... is the real question. As is whether the goal of the mission succeeded, or failed - and why

Geez, in all of this no one has remotely demonstrated how it could be an ICBM whereas it has been demonstrated conclusively that it was not. Just the first two things should suffice:
1. It was under powered flight too long (more than twice and almost three times as long) to be an ICBM but consistent with a jet leaving a contrail.

2. The lighting of the contrail at this time of day was completely inconsistent with the exhaust trail of a launched rocket (which would go from a more yellow/orange color near the ground to a brilliant white upon entering the upper atmosphere out of the earth's shadow) but consistent with the contrail of a jet flying at gradually decreasing altitude in the late afternoon/early evening.

3. There were gaps in the contrail consistent with jet contrails as the jet passes through pockets of warmer air not conducive to condensation, but not with rocket exhaust.

4. The flight path and the time of occurrence (because of 2) were consistent with that of a scheduled incoming air flight from the Pacific.

5. Satellite photos demonstrate this but without showing an additional exhaust trail of a rocket proceeding out over the Pacific. 6. The same thing was witnessed on succeeding days.

7. Other, similar contrails, same color, same general location, were present in the sky to the north at exactly the same time but were not claimed to be multiple, successive launches from several different launch platforms (subs).
The real question is why there are so many people who are so desperately in need of something threatening and inexplicable that they'll grasp at the flimsiest of explanations and ignore everything substantial in order to maintain the delusion.
31 posted on 11/30/2010 1:42:53 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Talisker
What the purpose of such a massively witnessed, yet massively denied, launch was... is the real question. As is whether the goal of the mission succeeded, or failed - and why.

The easiest way to "cover up" a secret test launch would be to merely call it a routine missile exercise. Nobody would care.

What about all the other "launches" since this video? Other photographers have captured the same kind of sunset contrail a couple of times a week since then. Are those all missiles too?

34 posted on 11/30/2010 2:45:06 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Talisker
What the purpose of such a massively witnessed,

Please correct me if I'm wrong but the only accounts of "witnesses" come from individuals who only viewed the same disclosed minute or so of the 10 minute video that you and the rest of us have seen........

I've yet to read any sea side witnesses closest to the alleged launch area giving their accounts............or ANY actual witnesses for that matter.

40 posted on 11/30/2010 4:13:24 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: Talisker; TankerKC; Rokke; Yardstick; aruanan; lbahneman; Mr. Silverback
"What the purpose of such a massively witnessed, yet massively denied, launch was... is the real question."

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Hyperbole, anyone?

"Massively witnessed"? Name anyone -- ANYONE -- with the exception of a handful of photographers who have shared their photos -- who has come forward as an "eyewitness" to this "launch"(...off the coast of one of the US's most densely populated areas).

"Massively denied"? Aside from the above few photographers, name over a handful of people who have actually collected, analyzed, and produced documents denying that this was a missile.

What is massive is the ignorance and gullibility of the numerous people who followed a few prominent "Pied Pipers" who watched 14 seconds of chopped and mixed up video (taken after sunset) and then opined that they had seen a "missile launch".

Purpose? To transport UPS-shipped goods from Hawaii to CA.

43 posted on 11/30/2010 6:32:10 PM PST by TXnMA (You don't have to be a California Condor expert to recognize a mockingbird when it sings...)
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