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To: Future Useless Eater; little jeremiah; RaceBannon; syc1959; butterdezillion; STARWISE; maggief; ...
I believe Race Bannon.

Now, about these darn newspaper announcements and the Birth Certificate. Folks have it bass ackwards. No one has to put them in the paper. Newspapers in ye olden days merely got the files from the office that issued birth certificates. You know, like the one-liner obituary list?

In the Holy Era of Blesséd Obama's Birth (HEBOOB) an Hawaiian birth certificate was a far less reliable document than an Hawaiian car title, or dog license. Anyone could get one (the Birth Certificate, that is) by claiming that, "little Won Hung Lo was born to my daughter in my house at 1313 Blueview Terrace, Honolulu at 12:00 PM on the 4th of July, 1961 with me and the wife as witnesses."

"Why thanks Granpa Lo! Here's your genuine Hawaiian Birth Certificate."
Of course, little Won Hung Lo was already three years old and had been born in Manila. No problem.

Very common situation at the time. Won Hung Lo has a perfectly good official Hawaiian Birth certificate, and so by golly does Barack Obama. Probably. As in the case of little Won Hung Lo, nobody can now prove fraud, because everyone who committed it, is dead.

So Obama's Birth Certificate is probably going to say "Hawaii." IMNSHO, There's gotta be something else on that BC that is an "embarrassment" to Bill Ayers' buddy and that could harm sales of Bill Ayers' masterpiece of hagiographic creative writing, "Dreams of My Father," which as it turns out, has many a true word in it: among them, "and," "the," "but," and dozens more.

Keep up the pressure, my teamates. But let's not go tinfoil and expect to get the guy out before 2012. This was a well planned coup and all we can do is damage control.

That is not to say some massive scandal will not blow him out There's no lack of those hidden IEDs out there, from the gay bathouse membership, to the Blago Revelations, and beyond. But there, we're talking Hope and Change.

139 posted on 11/30/2010 11:06:36 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (America can survive a fool. It cannot survive the fools who vote for him.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

The birth announcements really don’t seem like they came from a list put out by the HDOH. Too much difference between the lists in the different papers, with names showing up weeks apart and some showing up in only one of the 2 papers. The accounts given by alleged witnesses to the process in 1961 differ on critical points. The retention schedules and Administrative Rules don’t allow for newspaper lists until 1978. HDOH responses seem to confirm that they didn’t have any lists in 1961.

There are other problems with the announcements that were posted online as well, indicating that the microfilms were changed out at least once and in a couple libraries at least twice. Scratch lines that disappeared over time, pristine copies coming from library archives that the librarian accurately said were nearly unreadable, “close-ups” that have different markings than the whole-page view, etc.

There is not a doubt in my mind that the newspaper announcements were forged. Which proves nothing from a legal standpoint but does show how far Obama was willing to go in his desperation to have something credible, when he could have just consented to have the HDOH disclose his BC.

Official communications from the HDOH indicate that Obama does have a BC and either it or the supplemental affidavits claim he was born in Hawaii. But that BC isn’t legally valid because it was amended in 2006. My best guess based on HDOH responses is that the HI BC was only COMPLETED in 2006 - probably to add a birth weight, which Madelyn Dunham had no documentation for when she reported the birth to the local registrar and which the parents had 30 days to document through a HI doctor examining the baby.

The HDOH has indirectly confirmed in 2 different ways now that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery. His real BC probably makes the same claims as on Factcheck but the reason Obama forged a document is because the genuine COLB would note the amendment in 2006 and would make it obvious that the BC is not legally valid.

But anything we conclude based on the HDOH communications depends on whether they’ve been honest at all, which isn’t a given, based on my experiences with them. That’s why what I really, really want is a legal investigation. There are more than enough discrepancies and laws/rules broken to justify - and actually DEMAND - an investigation.


140 posted on 12/01/2010 12:09:00 AM PST by butterdezillion
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