Posted on 11/26/2010 5:03:10 PM PST by PotatoHeadMick
At a pristine house on the outskirts of Derby, life is slowly getting back to some semblance of normality. The teenage girl living here is a college student who’s put photos of herself dancing and laughing with her friends on several social networking websites.
A few miles away, another teenager, only a little older at 18, won a prize last month for being an ‘inspirational’ student at her college. A third girl, a child of 14, has a loving mother who waves her off to a Derby school each morning from a terrace home with a manicured front garden and picket fence.
The three girls from decent families have, almost certainly, never met. Yet each has become caught up in what’s believed to be the biggest case of serial sex abuse ever uncovered in Britain. This week, nine men from Derby were jailed for a string of offences against these girls and 24 others whom they groomed for sex.
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Why not just call them Pakistani expats. That’s what they are. I call the illegals “Mexicans” because that’s mostly what
they are. If I called the illegals the popular PC term
“Hispanic”, I think it would be unfair to Hispanic American
Citizens. Or other Hispanic people that have actually gone through the legal process to come here.
yeah, whatever, you know what I mean. They are Muslim men, for the majority, weren’t they?
The Brits have always referred to them as Asians.
Sikhs blame British policy of ‘Asian’ tag
RASHMEE ROSHAN LALL
The Times of India
Nov 17, 2006.
LONDON: British Sikhs have stepped up their attack on the UK’s politically-correct policy of lumping Sikhs and Hindus with the omnibus tag ‘Asian’ instead of clearly identifying Muslims as the offenders when needed, just 48 hours after a Scottish Sikh teenager was viciously attacked by a white gang and forced to submit to having his long hair hacked off.
In a loaded attack on British political correctness, Sikh leaders blamed the Edinburgh incident on the UK’s refusal to identify Asian Muslims as perpetrators of crime. Instead, said the Sikh Federation, Britain's only Sikh political party, racist offenders against whites are routinely described by the British media as “Asian”. The Federation said, “The media by adopting such a crude policy was putting at risk those most visible amongst Asians - a simple phrase that the media is using to describe those with brown skin.”
The attack on British political correctness comes nearly a fortnight after the high-profile sentencing in the Scottish city of Glasgow of three ‘Asian’ Muslim men who horrifically killed a young white man, Kriss Donald, in a racist attack that shocked Scotland and much of the world.
On Friday, UK Sikh leaders said the community believed that the attack on the Sikh teenager was “directly linked to (the) conviction in Scotland for the horrific killing of a young white man by four Muslims.”
I wish I knew more about the differences in the Sikhs and the other muslims... I know it isn’t fair to lump all together, but when one doesn’t have the facts, it is difficult....
This is a dialectical difference between Britain and the US.
In England, "Asian" is always used to refer to people we would call "South Asian": Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, etc.
Persons we would call "Asian" in the USA are always called "Oriental" in Britain.
Sikhs are not Muslims, nor Hindus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh
They believe in God, reincarnation, and purification of the human soul (until one unites with God). Christians and Sikhs should be able to live in harmony, even though the two religions have striking (and insurmountable) differences. Unlike Muslims, Sikhs would not use force to try to convert others.
Jihad and Sharia are fundamental concepts of Islam. There’s no reason to mince words. Islam is the problem.
Sikhs are not Muslim at all. Quite the opposite, in fact.
They originally formed as an offshoot of Hinduism to fight the Muslims who had invaded India.
thank you. I needed to know that.
All at taxpayer expense. Nice.
In my America, oriental was commonly used in reference to Chinese, Japonese, Koreans, and Philipinos when I was a kid. Asians is a term I've only hear in the last twenty years.
My take on the British use of Asians is that it's more vague than the common term Pakis. The British press and Politicians are simply using it as a euphemism.
Sikhs are not Muslim at all
true, I have a question, are they allowed to carry their ceremonial, religious knives on planes?
No. I wouldn’t think so.
Sikhs are not any kind of Muslim.
Here is a short review of Middle Eastern and South Asian religions:
Before historical times there were only Hindus in India and pagans everywhere else. Most of the inhabitants of India remain Hindus, and are polytheists with dozens of major gods and some 70 million minor deities.
The Jews arose in Babylonia about 2000-1500 BC before their adventures in Egypt and the Holy Land. The Zoroastrians developed at about the same time in Persia. These were the first two great monotheistic religions, and may have arisen from a common root. The Jews of course persist in Israel and the West, while the Zoroastrians are now almost wiped out by the Muslims.
Separately, Gautama Buddha lived in India in ca. 300 BC and founded the school of knowledge that bears his name, and is as much a philosophy as a religion. Very few Buddhists remain in India, but there are large numbers of devotees in Tibet, Thailand, and East Asia.
Christianity of course arose in the first century AD. There are numerous Christians in India, some converted by missionaries in modern times, while others belong to Christian traditions dating back to the first few centuries AD, some of them supposedly even evangelized by St. Thomas himself. However, they are far fewer than Hndus and the other main religions.
Islam dates to the 7th century in Arabia and the Middle East. Shi'ite Muslims followed the son-in-law of Mohammed and are now found primarily in Iraq and Iran. Sunni Muslims are the majority elsewhere, including Pakistan and India, and followed other leaders after the split with the Shi'ites in the century after Mohammed's death. Sunni Islam moved eastward and conquered the Indian subcontinent in the 1000-1500 AD time frame (the Rajput, Delhi and Moghul Empires.)
The Sikhs appeared in Punjab in the late 1400's. This is a new religion and is not Hindu or Muslim, although it incorporates elements of both older religions. It is monotheistic and highly egalitarian, and in many respects is the most admirable of all the Eastern religions. The Sikhs were persecuted by the Muslim Moghul Empire and developed a mighty warrior tradition in their defense. These are the people one typically sees wearing the turban, and it is a great slander and mistake to attack them for being Muslim.
-ccm
Hinduism is not exactly polytheistic, because the term ‘Hinduism’ itself is an arbitrarily constructed concept.
The Bhagavad-Gita, the main scripture of what we know today as Hinduism, is deeply monotheistic, and echoes that declaration throughout its length.
Nor is Hinduism exactly monotheistic. Would be an enjoyable discussion to follow should it come up elsewhere in a more suitable topic.
True.
Wow, that looks like a great movie, I wonder why I never heard about it here in the U.S.? Loved the trailer, especially the last line, “You have failed to maintain your weapon...”
Harry Brown is similar to the Death Wish series, but I think the British did a better job of it. I’m sad to say, people tell me Harry Brown reflects reality in many parts of Britain today. The inmates are definitely running the asylum both here and there, but I hope goodly people are waking up.
As I understand it, the British left INTENTIONALLY imported the problem so as to destroy British society and create a new order (disorder?). I think the American left wants the same thing here. That’s what the multi-culti and diversity crowd are aiming for, the destruction of WASP culture. If President Obama really loved America, do you think he’d be constantly talking about changing it? No. I think he hates us.
Asian in Britain means either ‘South Asian’ which is Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis or Goans. OR ‘Asian’ on its own means what would also be called oriental races ie Japanese, Chinese, Thais etc.
Middle Eastern in Britain means simply that: those who live in Iraq, Jordan, Iran etc. Including Egypt.
Moroccans, Tunisians etc are ‘North African’.
Some races like Afghans, Nepalese, Bhutanese are simply referred to as that, and not lumped into either the ME or Asian category.
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