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Don't Run Sarah!
The Daily Beast ^

Posted on 11/25/2010 9:10:56 AM PST by roses of sharon

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To: LS; kevkrom
Totally disagree, especially if it's about the "economy," where rightly or wrongly Mitt is perceived as this brilliant businessman and savior of the Olympics.

You are clinging to an old tale, very few people will remember his involvement with the WINTER Olympics, and his business style, and methods may not hold up to scrutiny by a hostile press, and an electorate having hard times, and his blowing so much of his personal wealth on vanity office seeking, and moving around the nation to more advantageous addresses don't really give the impression of business success, again someone will have to remind people that the guy born on third base hit some home runs many years ago and made about a third or less of what Madonna is worth.

Some people want to know what he was doing giving that money to Democrats around the nation in their races against Republicans, and doing fund raising for Democrat candidates, and Planned Parenthood.

Mitt Romney is fund raising for Planned Parenthood abortions here
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201 posted on 11/26/2010 11:11:01 AM PST by ansel12
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To: LS

“I think there was some (correct) criticism of her about her endorsement of McCain.”

There has been constant criticism of her for two years here at FR...if you just read the last two days posts you’ll see all the same arguments over and over. Very few are legitimate points. Some are legitimate and some are legitimate and weak.

The critique on McCain mostly comes from her right flank. I believe it to be one of the weakest arguments against Gov. Palin. He picked Palin. If she would have not endorsed McCain she would have been labeled “disloyal, politically naive and “not playing ball” in the GOP. I’m not crazy about it but it makes perfect political sense.

“It in fact was a strat adopted by Obama, who had no record and ran on being a celebrity. We’ll see if that works twice.”

Is this sarcasm? Obama voted present in Congress and his state legislative record is more of the same sprinkled with radical agenda votes. Gov. Palin has executive experience at the city level, at the Energy Commission level and at the Governor level. She has a real record to praise and critique.

Your “no record” critique holds no water, LS.


202 posted on 11/26/2010 11:16:09 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Mitt Romney....none.)
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To: LS

“Totally disagree, especially if it’s about the “economy,” where rightly or wrongly Mitt is perceived as this brilliant businessman and savior of the Olympics.”

Mitt Romney died politically the second that ObamaCare was passed.

He is not a viable candidate. He will stick around for awhile in the Primary only due to the dense nature of the Establishment within the GOP.

You should warn your acquaintances in the GOP Establishment that Romney is a crucial mistake and he will lose the GE in a landslide and give the high tax Socialists full reign of the US. His nomination will not only kill the GOP (I believe it will lead to a massive TeaParty exodus)...it will destroy American competitiveness in a permanent manner.

I can’t stress the last paragraph enough. Read it carefully.


203 posted on 11/26/2010 11:22:31 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Mitt Romney....none.)
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To: rbmillerjr
You should warn your acquaintances in the GOP Establishment that Romney is a crucial mistake and he will lose the GE in a landslide and give the high tax Socialists full reign of the US. His nomination will not only kill the GOP (I believe it will lead to a massive TeaParty exodus)...it will destroy American competitiveness in a permanent manner.

Right. Serious down-ticket consequences. It will be the final straw for the TP folks who already have the GOP on probation.

204 posted on 11/26/2010 11:24:31 AM PST by kevkrom (De-fund Obamacare in 2011, repeal in 2013!)
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To: LS

“Once the Dems have a target to demonize (O’Donnell, Angle) then they can play up negatives”

I think this is Gov. Palin a step ahead again. Your point is a great point.

Palin is in no hurry to announce, which makes it extremely difficult for anybody running against her. She has strong base support. If the others announce first, they will be attacked in detail. If they delay, they can build a coalition of supporters to beat Palin.

The Establishment knows this. Romney knows it. The longer the announcements are delayed, the better it is for Gov. Palin. It will come down to Romney and Palin...Romney’s only chance is for conservatives to divide and be conquered by the Establishment pick, Romney. This Primary and Convention is going to be ugly. The Establishment will be defeated or get a Pyrrhic victory.


205 posted on 11/26/2010 11:33:45 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Mitt Romney....none.)
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To: rbmillerjr

should be “...can’t build a winning coalition of supporters...”


206 posted on 11/26/2010 11:38:54 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I will not, under any circumstances, vote for Mitt Romney....none.)
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To: LS

“It becomes MUCH easier when you put in a specific name. Once the Dems have a target to demonize (O’Donnell, Angle) then they can play up negatives. I agree now he would lose OH instantly, and probably NC and VA and IN. But now isn’t the election, and ANY Republican you put in the campaign is going to be disliked by some on our side.”

In this case only one GOP candidate has actually been pilloried. Palin. and she would still beat Obama in the Electoral college. Neither Huckabee, Romney or Gingrich has received any real attention to their records.

But the MSM will give them that attention AFTER the nomination, which will knock them down. Add to that the depressed turnout among the base for any of the three and it is easy to see how they would all lose and Palin would win.


207 posted on 11/26/2010 12:14:05 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: LS

> “Indeed, every single time there is a gaffe, or a booking to which she doesn’t appear, it’s ALWAYS blamed on the staff.”

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That “staff” is one person.
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208 posted on 11/26/2010 1:05:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: LS

Your comments led me to read my post to you.

I made no implication WRT Romney at all, and my statement on DeMint’s lack of even a basic command of the English language stands. Palin’s diction is excellent, whether you like her ‘twang’ or not. She has gotten the point across in each of her statements with correct grammar and syntax.
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209 posted on 11/26/2010 1:14:14 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: LS
These are all nice, but they are hardly national polls.

Don't be glib. I freely admitted to you that I didn't search the net for polls, but instead, presented you with several alternative measures of Palin's potential in the primary race.

Perhaps someone else who has the poll results you seek has already posted them for you.

Frankly, the historical accuracy of national polls this far out from a presidential election is abysmal anyway, so I fail to see why you'd want to use them to support your contention that Palin would lose against Obama in 2012.

National polls showed Carter handily beating Reagan in 1980, right up until the election, when Reagan massacred him. I'd think that the sort of data I provided to you is a much better yardstick to measure where the public stands, at this point. And - let's not forget the most recent 'poll', which was the 2010 midterm wipe-out of the Democrats all across the country.

Any thinking person has to factor all of that data into forecasting what's to come in 2012, if they're serious about arriving at an answer that will come close to the probable outcome.

In most head-to-head polls between Palin and Obama, she comes off worse than anyone else.

Oh, I've seen those polls posted here. Most have been produced (or commissioned) by major media companies, or were conducted by little-known, to unknown polling outfits who didn't reveal their polling methods. I wouldn't put much stock in their validity or accuracy.

With all other measures of public sentiment showing that Sarah Palin is immensely popular and influential, it casts strong suspicion on the polls you mentioned, which show otherwise.

210 posted on 11/26/2010 1:21:53 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Diogenesis

other than Boehner and Palin, who is riding in the pic? I think I see Cantor.


211 posted on 11/26/2010 10:14:00 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: Gene Eric
Better without the definition.

I tried that, and a lot of responders were so dumb they thought I was too dumb to spell "unelectable" correctly.

Subtleties are lost on people with a limited vocabulary who are too lazy to look anything up.

That's why I link the photo directly to the Merriam-Webster definition.

212 posted on 12/01/2010 7:11:12 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: DemonDeac

What a ridiculous statement.


213 posted on 12/01/2010 7:16:25 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I believe I noticed your initial text post on “ineluctable”.

In the words of Austin Powers: “Quite knavish, baby.”


214 posted on 12/01/2010 12:09:07 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: nwrep
Our goal should be to beat ZERO, whether it takes a RINO or not.

A RINO cannot beat ZERO because the conservative base will stay home.

215 posted on 12/01/2010 12:42:24 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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