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To: backwoods-engineer; freedomwarrior998; Jim Robinson

freedomwarrior998’s posts drip with condescension and elitism. I keep making comparisons to religion. Here’s one: freedomwarrior998 is like the Catholic Church, and we’re acting like Martin Luther.

http://www.who2.com/ask/martinluther.html

You see, the US Constitution is an arcane manuscript written in an obscure language (English circa 1787). We who are not properly trained simply cannot grasp the “penumbras formed by emanations” from the original text. It is beyond us.

A wise person would bow down before the high priests, er lawyers, as they enlighten us with their profound wisdom. You see, the US Constitution DOES permit them to search you for any reason. It’s right there in the 4th, you dimwit. Now move along like a good prole. (extreme sarcasm)


72 posted on 11/24/2010 10:21:07 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Land of the free, home of the brave, eh?)
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To: CitizenUSA

You are absolutely incorrect. Patently and completely incorrect. I don’t subscribe to hidden rights in “penumbras and emanations”. Doing so is profoundly dangerous. Just like Justice Thomas and Justice Scalia, I believe that we need to read the text and strictly construe the text. You are the one attempting to read a “right to fly” into the Constitution. There is no more a “right to fly” than there is a “right to abortion” or a “right to same-sex ‘marriage’”. When you attempt to add things in the Constitution that are not there, you completely destroy the Constitution.

You are simply attempting to read something into the Constitution that doesn’t exist, and I called you on it, and now you are calling names and comparing yourself to Martin Luther.

As for “condescension and elitism”, I find that charge laughable. I cannot stand people who destroy the Constitution, whether they are libertines or liberals. Libertines who want to read new “rights” into the Constitution are just as dangerous to our system of government as liberals who want to do so. The fact that you might like a particular “right” doesn’t make it A-OK. If you give judges free reign to read things into the Constitution that are not there, you WILL be ruled by an oligarchy.

That’s the point I am making.


76 posted on 11/24/2010 11:18:23 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: CitizenUSA
You see, the US Constitution DOES permit them to search you for any reason. It’s right there in the 4th, you dimwit. Now move along like a good prole. (extreme sarcasm)

Only the ignorant retreat to strawmen. No one said the 4th Amendment says you can be searched anywhere for any reason. Hence, you invented that strawman because you don't like what the Constitution actually says.

78 posted on 11/24/2010 11:26:41 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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