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1 posted on 11/23/2010 12:35:08 PM PST by SmithL
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By law the EPA cannot regulate anything hunting or fishing. Idiots.
34 posted on 11/23/2010 12:57:44 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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...which the groups say kills 10 million to 20 million birds and other animals a year by lead poisoning...

They probably count game animals struck and killed by lead bullets and shot as having died of "lead poisoning".

...and I suppose in a WAY it's true...

;-)

35 posted on 11/23/2010 12:57:59 PM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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It makes sense that a lot of liberals are gay, because they are always looking for a backdoor way to screw with normal people.
37 posted on 11/23/2010 12:59:13 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The people who hate Sarah Palin hate her because they know that her Presidency is inevitable.)
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The EPA was created in 1970, during the adminstration of WHAT U.S. president?

Anyone?

Anyone?


38 posted on 11/23/2010 1:02:57 PM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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which the groups say kills 10 million to 20 million birds and other animals a year by lead poisoning.

PROVE IT! The EPA found no such thing when they decided they were NOT going to ban lead.

So come on big mouths...PROVE your ridiculous claims.


39 posted on 11/23/2010 1:03:17 PM PST by Adder (Part 1 Accomplished)
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It comes after the EPA denied their petition to ban lead ammunition and lead fishing tackle, which the groups say kills 10 million to 20 million birds and other animals a year by lead poisoning.

Who counted them? How many birds are killed by wind mills generating power? Trillions, no doubt. Maybe more.

42 posted on 11/23/2010 1:09:32 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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And to think some of us kooks out on the right-wing fringe thought the EPA was just another tool to subjugate the American slaves and should be abolished.

I guess that’s just a crazy conspiracy theory.


44 posted on 11/23/2010 1:12:52 PM PST by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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We need to treat this like Global Warming. Where's the science on lead poisoning?

My understanding is that even with children ingesting it lead poisoning is rare and was falling. The little damage done isn't measurable from ingestion, but the EPA cut the acceptable rate in half thus reviving lead poisoning as an issue for children.

the groups say kills 10 million to 20 million birds and other animals a year by lead poisoning.

This is sheer invention and unprovable. Let's kill them with science, aka the search for truth.

50 posted on 11/23/2010 1:19:25 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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“.......which the groups say kills 10 million to 20 million birds and other animals a year by lead poisoning.”

Prove it.


54 posted on 11/23/2010 1:26:49 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t we defeat this “No lead ammo” thing once already?


56 posted on 11/23/2010 1:36:39 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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The bear that got into my garbage last week needs a dose of Lea_ P______...

Fill in the blanks.

58 posted on 11/23/2010 1:37:00 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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Notice the propaganda try to make the EPA look centrist just as pathetic as trying to make this president centrist.

Propaganda bs alert!!


61 posted on 11/23/2010 1:44:47 PM PST by RINOS ARE RADICALS
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If ANY excessive lead poisoning is needed, it’s the Enviro-Wacko’s and the EPA that should suffer it.


63 posted on 11/23/2010 1:46:29 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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Here's all I could find on the real risks of lead poisoning from HHS's Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality:

http://www.ahrq.gov/clinic/pocketgd1011/gcp10s3.htm#lead

From the site:

Screening for Elevated Blood Lead Levels in Children and Pregnant Women Summary of Recommendations

The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) concludes that evidence is insufficient to recommend for or against routine screening for elevated blood lead levels in asymptomatic children aged 1 to 5 who are at increased risk. Grade: I Statement.

The USPSTF recommends against routine screening for elevated blood lead levels in asymptomatic children aged 1 to 5 years who are at average risk. Grade: D Recommendation.

The USPSTF recommends against routine screening for elevated blood lead levels in asymptomatic pregnant women. Grade: D Recommendation.

That's it from that site. Not very scary at all.

64 posted on 11/23/2010 1:48:28 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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...lead ammunition and lead fishing tackle, which the groups say kills 10 million to 20 million birds and other animals a year by lead poisoning

I would have thought the impact from the 12 gauge shells would be enough to bring them down.

66 posted on 11/23/2010 1:53:30 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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Chelation therapy for lead removal at toxic levels information:

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Dec06/LeadChelation.kr.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelation_therapy

Chelation itself can be dangerous: http://www.ehow.com/about_5456890_chelation-therapy-lead-poisoning.html


70 posted on 11/23/2010 1:55:36 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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which the groups say kills 10 million to 20 million birds and other animals a year by lead poisoning.

Damn, secondhand smoke only kills 400,000 humans a year.

78 posted on 11/23/2010 2:08:59 PM PST by umgud
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My 100 little Christamas Lights, like most, are from China. It says to wash your hands after putting the lights on the tree because there's lead present.

My question...Why is lead even allowed??

82 posted on 11/23/2010 2:15:02 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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Just like DDT.


100 posted on 11/23/2010 2:55:07 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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I’m guessing that 10-20 million is similar to Algore and his “the seas will rise 100 feet if we don’t dire hybrids now” claim.


101 posted on 11/23/2010 2:56:00 PM PST by matt04
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