Posted on 11/20/2010 11:34:24 PM PST by JohnKinAK
Glenn Beck said today that he has spoken to military experts about the mystery contrail from a few weeks ago and he says it’s definitely not a plane, but rather a two stage missile. He just wants to know where it came from, and he has a theory. Beck postulates that this missile was possibly from a Chinese sub off the coast of California, perhaps as a show of force to the world, but even more so to President Obama.
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I didn't ask for a suggestion from you but thank you for thinking of me. That's not an option.
Did TigersEye just say that, for him, thinking is not an option? '-)
(No courtesy ping for TE -- he considers that "stalking"...)
New Freepers thread on the events of 8th November.
Thanks! I’m there — and just issued “the challenge”...
I’ve been away from this for a while, but the pics in post #556 (and other supporting work on this thread) put the last nail in the “missile’s” coffin. Good work by Yardstick, TXnMA, Rokke, and others.
I know they are feeling frustrated in knowing they have been proven wrong and I commend them for fighting to the end, but I think soon some of them will finally say, “Damn! I hate to say it, but you guys are right.”
Look, if this were a rocket it would be incredible to cover up, it’s too big. I mean, it would be as impossible as bringing a foreigner into the country and getting him elected as President of the United States, oh wait, .... nevermind
Any data yet to support your missile theory?
Didn’t think so.
Time for you to man up and say you were wrong.
Thanks for posting your daily stalking post though.
So you are just going to proudly wave your kookflag and put your ignorance on display?
Not stalking, just asking you where your data is. You support a wildass claim, I want you to show some proof, or admit you have none.
BTW, there is another thread on this where the US Military says it wasn’t a missile. Jane’s says it wasn’t a missile. Only people saying it was a missile are folks that can’t provide a single bit of data.
2 Generals
1 Jane's - NOT TRUE that they have changed their minds.
3-4 Secs of Def and Aerospace engineers etc.
5 ~ 7 FReepers with missile hands on experience etc.
and then there is this:
These contrailers are demented:
And what really proves the case:
I worked at White Sands Missile Range for 16 years and my father was a rocket engineer. There is no question.
Yes, it is a missile.
You can see the spiraling in the trail, then you can see the correction in the trajectory and the spin gets tighter and the trail quits spiraling.
There was a wobble in the spiral and it was corrected.
I worked at White Sands Missile Range for 16 years and my father was a rocket engineer.
There is no question.
CASE CLOSED
Many many other people have attested to the same thing.
The contrail in question was not a fixed wing aircraft. Contrails begin to evaporate fairly soon after generation.
Additionally, the exhaust trail in question has a shape, depth, density, and opacity that is totally alien to contrails.
Ladies/Gents, that is the exhaust trail of a solid propellant rocket; not a liquid fuelled rocket or aircraft contrail - SOLID PROPELLANT ROCKET.
Now, who launched it is another question."
Well said... From someone who would know
Geeez how many more people with PhDs in aeronautical engineering do we need to tell us "It was a missile!" ???
Folks, it was a missile, undoubtedly and unmistakably,
and it is very easy to see and to identify
and the government is trying to get you to forget about it, or to ignore it, or to dismiss it.
Let me guess. You've never seen a missile launch, but you've seen lots of contrails. And in all this time, you've never been fooled for long into thinking a contrail was a missile, but you can understand it if ....
a) an 11-year-local professional airborne cameraman in one of the world's most competitive markets didn't know the dif between a horizontal airline contrail and a vertical missile plume at sunset!
b) Multiple Air Force Generals and an editor from Jane's were dunderheaded simps
c) It was only natural that there'd be an intense, immediate counter-response very heavy on unverifiable and/or unsourced still shots of supposedly the same moving event combined with numbing mathematical calculations, graphs, charts, arrows, and lines to prove an optical illusion!
....Or ....
a) A missile was fired off the Southern California coast, a traffic cameraman got footage of it, and nobody wants to officially own it.
Occam's Razor calls are laughable. Just like those photos that supposedly "prove" that contrails can look exactly like what was in Leyvas' video, but actually reveal shiningly the dif between an underlit horizontal contrail and a vertical plume. Big as the nose on your face. Some people here point and yell "Occam's Razor!" at its opposite, in order to convince themselves that a missile was an airplane.
Yikes.
Just answer one question. Why is the "missile" so slow?
numbing mathematical calculations, graphs, charts, arrows, and lines to prove an optical illusion!
You see, that's where we differ. I have been trained in science and math and have made my living on them for 40 years. I do NOT find the things you mentioned "numbing." I find them informative and I understand them. And they make scientific and mathematical sense.
From my experience I have learned that 90+% of the general public does not have a clue about how anything scientific works. You tell me about generals? I know a guy who works for NASA who told me gold was a better conductor than silver and copper. So I'm supposed to believe him just because he works at NASA?
No, often not true. In fact, sometimes they grow larger and last 10 for more hours. Look up and do some research on "contrail persistence." (And please don't tell me about "chemtrails.")
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