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To: DariusBane
Let me explain what I mean. Bush built TSA. Conservatives empowered the government because they “knew” their guy would not abuse the power.

Bullshit. I'm tired of this retarded line. Conservatives hated Bush. That's why he left office with 20% approval. He didn't even have the conservative base. The only people he had left were the diehard moronic party-line republicans, who, just like the party-line democrats, continue thoughtlessly voting for their R or D because daddy did. Assholes like you take so much joy in trying to smugly pointing out conservative hypocrisy like this, but it's a load of crap. All the final conservative hold outs abandoned Bush by the time of Harriet Miers.
279 posted on 11/21/2010 1:18:39 AM PST by newguy357
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“Bullshit. I’m tired of this retarded line. Conservatives hated Bush. That’s why he left office with 20% approval. He didn’t even have the conservative base. The only people he had left were the diehard moronic party-line republicans, who, just like the party-line democrats, continue thoughtlessly voting for their R or D because daddy did. Assholes like you take so much joy in trying to smugly pointing out conservative hypocrisy like this, but it’s a load of crap. All the final conservative hold outs abandoned Bush by the time of Harriet Miers.”

1. You don’t know me. You don’t know if I am an “asshole”. Calling me an “asshole” is a personal attack. It is silly. It is petty. Calling me an asshole is the last resort of someone who is angry but can’t create a coherent thought. That is DU stuff.

2. You are speaking as though the last 30 years of politics didn’t happen. This is not a vacuum. Do you remember the Willie Horton Ad? Conservatives are seen as “tough on crime. Liberals are seen as “soft on crime”. Conservatives have long questioned the 4th amendment and thought that “fruit of the poisoned tree theory” was a trick perpetuated by the ACLU. Conservatives have long pushed for and funded more law enforcement capability both Federal and local. That’s just what it is.

3. William F Buckley spent his years trying to purge the conservative movement of the John Birch society, and other nasty brands of racists. While I am not comparing Birchers and racists to Law and Order conservatives I believe that too many conservatives are accepting and supporting of strong local governments with wide ranging powers and the guns to back it up.

4. Who is the audience here? Is FreeRepublic full of liberals to argue with? NO! The audience here is/are conservatives. We struggle here to define conservatism. So do I need to spend my time attacking liberals? Nope, they aren’t here, and don’t read FreeRepublic.

5. In order to define what and where we want conservatism to be, and move, we have to look where it has been. Bill Clinton triangulated, and got a whole bunch of conservatives to vote for him with his 100,000 new cops on the street initiative. Why do you think he did that? Did he do that to move left? No, he did that to move right and capture conservatives. It worked. Why? Because many conservatives have an affinity to law enforcement.

6. I believe that government should be very small. It should exist in the narrowly enumerated powers as put forth in the Constitution. The States are where the real battle is because the Constitution does not limit the power of the States as much as the power of the Federal Government. Therefore, it has long been a point of contention as to how much law enforcement we want at the State level. So it’s an ongoing, argument. A 100 year old argument.

FINALLY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY:
Conservatives did build TSA. Or at least some conservatives did. If you don’t like the TSA, you should join me in trying to drive out Conservatives that did build the TSA. But you are fevered and not seeing that I am trying to purge conservatism of people who would build the TSA. GET IT?


406 posted on 11/21/2010 10:22:34 AM PST by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: newguy357

“Bullshit. I’m tired of this retarded line. Conservatives hated Bush. That’s why he left office with 20% approval. He didn’t even have the conservative base. The only people he had left were the diehard moronic party-line republicans, who, just like the party-line democrats, continue thoughtlessly voting for their R or D because daddy did. Assholes like you take so much joy in trying to smugly pointing out conservative hypocrisy like this, but it’s a load of crap. All the final conservative hold outs abandoned Bush by the time of Harriet Miers. “

This is what you wrote to me. Proud of it?


456 posted on 11/21/2010 2:15:07 PM PST by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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