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To: milwguy
I would just say you are doing exactly what the real enemies, the Democrats are hoping for. They have used the ‘divide and conquer’ strategy to divide the fiscal conservatives from the social conservatives. While the two are certainly not mutually exclusive, the libertarian, fiscally conservative movement is growing in numbers. By applying your social issues ‘litmus test’ to the ‘Tea Party’ you are doing the work of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al.

Agree. TEA stands for "Taxed Enough Already", if I'm not mistaken. It does not imply advocacy of various social issues at all.

Want to destroy the movement? Start mixing in all these gonadal politics, and the TEA party movement will be successfully marginalized as its "tent" shrinks more and more because of unnecessary stridency and inclusion of non-fiscal issues.

I have conservative social opinions, but I am willing to put the fiscal issues first in an effort to create as much consensus as possible.

IMHO, social conservatives should create a similar movement if they want, but should not try to steer TEA partiers away from their primary focus, that of fiscal conservatism, limited government, etc.

81 posted on 11/15/2010 5:10:18 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: sargon
See post 77
85 posted on 11/15/2010 5:14:33 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: sargon; wagglebee; little jeremiah; metmom
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I do think sargon was warned by Jim Rob yesterday. Or at least he was butting heads with conservatives.

87 posted on 11/15/2010 5:17:23 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: sargon; little jeremiah; xzins; P-Marlowe; metmom; trisham; Darkwolf377; Responsibility2nd; ...
Want to destroy the movement? Start mixing in all these gonadal politics, and the TEA party movement will be successfully marginalized as its "tent" shrinks more and more because of unnecessary stridency and inclusion of non-fiscal issues.

By "gonadal politics" are you saying that we should ignore the sodomites and the innocent American babies being murdered every 24 seconds?

I have conservative social opinions, but I am willing to put the fiscal issues first in an effort to create as much consensus as possible.

Right, let them keep killing babies and let sodomites "marry" and maybe they will cut spending -- how's that worked out so far?

IMHO, social conservatives should create a similar movement if they want,

Reagan already did that, it's called CONSERVATISM, it's composed of fiscal conservative, social conservatism and strong national defense. It works EVERY time it's tried, everything else fails.

90 posted on 11/15/2010 5:25:24 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: sargon

I have been posting here since 2004 and the increasing intolerance of the ‘social conservatives’ has really increased.

We are fighting an evil based of religion in the form of Islam, and the religious right is starting to adopt many of the same ‘my way of the highway’ attitudes as the militant Jihadi’s. Ben Franklin was one of the founders of our country and he was a deist...........................
Many of the Founding Fathers accepted the tenets of Deism, rejecting a state church, religious fanaticism, intolerance, and the intervention of God in human affairs. ....

Our current crop of ‘experts’ on the founding of our great country would be wise to realize they do not have a monopoly on how the founders thought our country should be structured as relates to the influence of Christianity or any other organized religion on our personal affairs.


129 posted on 11/15/2010 7:35:16 PM PST by milwguy
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To: sargon

Meh.. F off....

We have come this far without your GD “input” and we will continue to steamroller your F’ing ass and the rest of the M’er F’ing Rinos doing things as WE see fit.

We dont give a F about your “issues” or your “strategery” RINOS are PROVEN LOSERS and their counsel should be IGNORED!

Have a nice F’ing day


179 posted on 11/16/2010 5:17:34 AM PST by myself6
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To: sargon

Sargon, it appears FR is turning into a radical theocracy. We have been here much longer than most of these folks. While i am a social conservative by any given standard (bitter clinger to the left), it appears our ideals are not pure enough for the radicals. I think many here are over-reading the election results like the radical left did. Its disturbing, because if this is what comes out of the elected TEA party reps mouths, they are finished politically.

I don’t think Joe Miller, Rand Paul or Sarah Palin would agree with some of these exclusionary comments.

Due to the severe nature of the fiscal problems in this country, the fiscal issue is priority number 1 to me. These folks are stuck on “manners” while the ship sinks. Instead of bailing water they are throwing those that aren’t 100% ideologically in agreement with them overboard, even though they are in it for the same end-goal.


184 posted on 11/16/2010 6:21:58 AM PST by ChinaThreat (3)
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To: sargon

Are there “social issues” as currently configured at the federal level that do not cost taxpayers money?


352 posted on 11/17/2010 7:16:05 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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