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Amazing Interview: Air Force General says "Sub Launched Missile, 100% Certain"
Fox News Interview with Air Force General Tom McInerney | November 14th 2010 | Fox News Hannity Interview

Posted on 11/13/2010 2:55:59 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009

Hannity was surprised to hear a famous ex Air Force General tell him “That Is A Missile, Shot From A Submarine!” I quote retired Air Force Lieutenant General Tom McInerney (ex commander of 11th Air Force in Alaska) “I spent 35 years flying fighters, and you can see the guidance system kick in, I have watched that film 10 times, I am absolutely certain that that is not an aircraft, but a sub launch ICBM missile!!!” See the video and judge his words for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LivRJOWrcpA&feature=player_embedded#! I will next post a clickable link.


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To: justa-hairyape
Do you have any idea where Ontario airport is?

I do.

It's out there East of LA. LA is a very big city.

781 posted on 11/15/2010 4:51:57 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: justa-hairyape
Thanks for the info. Do you think there is any possibility they were testing a super sonic cruise missile ? Assuming it had a starting rocket phase to get to a safe test altitude and then the jet engine kicks in and off it went over the open Pacific.
782 posted on 11/15/2010 4:52:55 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: muawiyah
Live in Rancho Cucamonga. Very familiar with the airport. In fact that plane probably flew right over my head. So let me see, you are absolutely certain it was the UPS flight landing at ONT ?
783 posted on 11/15/2010 4:55:30 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Why does everyone assume that a submarine cannot surface and deploy a cruise missile with a jet engine?

Why does anyone not realize we have cruise missiles with jet engines?


Everyone in the world who knows anything about cruise missiles knows that they are powered by turbine engines. No one has assumed that a submarine could not surface and launch a cruise missile.
784 posted on 11/15/2010 4:55:49 AM PST by aruanan
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To: TigersEye
That’s amazing because it shows a plane drifting far to the south even though its trajectory is clearly at a right angle to that.

Just thought of another problem with the photo shopped animation. In those low light conditions, the plane would have had motion during the long exposure. Should have blurred when it was up close. So that's three strikes, their out.

785 posted on 11/15/2010 5:36:12 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: TigersEye

Whoa. Just took a quick look at that contrail science site that photo shopped a fake gif animation. They have been attempting to prove the chemtrail conspiracies wrong ? What a flipping coincidence.


786 posted on 11/15/2010 5:42:12 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Webcam operators at LAX

I guess I can rest now that you have your experts' opinion.

787 posted on 11/15/2010 5:47:41 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: justa-hairyape
That's what the satellite and scheduling people say.

We've all been over this before. IF the plane followed the normal route it takes every day at that time then it would have had a gigantic rocket on its tail and would NEVER have made it to Ontario to land.

It'd been destroyed in route.

Turns out the plane made it. Three engines and all.

Draw your own conclusions.

788 posted on 11/15/2010 7:24:26 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
With a blast zone 3200 feet wide, that particular rocket would require an ENORMOUS submarine to move it into place for launch.

Again, when examination of the image leads you to a belief that's simply contrary to what you know (Miles long submarines are fiction) then you have to revise your thesis.

789 posted on 11/15/2010 7:40:53 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: muawiyah

At what altitude (approximate) do you think flight UPS 902 would have stopped making a long contrail ?


790 posted on 11/15/2010 8:06:16 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
I have no opinion on the matter, nor is the altitude at which it happened relevant in this case.

It was a plane. It landed on time. No eyewitnesses to a missile blast off have been found. No one has been reported missing.

791 posted on 11/15/2010 8:13:27 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: muawiyah
It is impossible for it to be Flight UPS 902. Absolutely impossible. Check it for yourself. The website below allows you to track all current flights and previous flight histories in the area. First let me say there were only two possibilities. AWE808 and UPS902. UPS902 came through almost a half hour later then AWE808. Flight AWE808 was over Catalina Island at 17:01:39 on November 8th. Then crossed over the California main coastline at 17:06:00. If you look at the flight path for UPS902 on that day in history, only someone smoking crack would claim it was the flight.

UPS902 was over Catalina Island at 17:31:33. Its altitude was ~ 30,000 feet. It was 35 miles south of Long Beach at 17:33:01. Altitude ~ 29,000 feet. It was then 20 miles south of Costa Mesa at 17:34:29 at ~ 29,000 feet. At that altitude should have been contrailing the whole way. Never got close to Long Beach. Traveled south of FallBrook and started major descent then. Turned north and was at 11,100 feet over Hemet heading north. No way it could have been that plane. Check it for yourself. Go to the website below. Set the date for November 8th 2010 time 17:30 . Set the replay speed for normal. Hit Start Replay. Make sure you are not paused. Planes will show up in a few seconds. UPS902 will appear on and off south of Malibu at 17:30:11. It flew way south of Long Beach at about 30,000 feet. No where near the setting sun with respect to looking south from Long Beach.

Airport Monitor Bob Hope Airport

792 posted on 11/15/2010 8:30:08 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

And notice the yahoo at Contrail Science has the times wrong for that day and he fails to give you the altitudes. Later.


793 posted on 11/15/2010 8:39:01 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Some aerospace experts who reviewed the footage said the size of the plume hinted that it was a government operation.

“It can’t belong to anyone but the military,” said Marco Caceres, an analyst with Teal Group Corp., a Fairfax, Va.-based aerospace research firm. The appearance of such a massive rocket contrail near military bases that are known for regularly testing missiles is unlikely to be a coincidence, Caceres said.


Good info I had not seen.

Thanks


794 posted on 11/15/2010 8:50:23 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; muawiyah; All
"WHY DOES EVERYONE ASSUME A MISSILE CANNOT USE A JET ENGINE?"

I've seen no one claim that. Most of what you just said is true; no one denies it. Cruise missiles also use short-burning SRBs to get them out of the tube and up to speed just until they can deploy wings and start the jet. The key term there is "short-burning". The booster drops away, and the (jet) missile flies nap-of-the-earth (extremely low, ground-hugging) to escape radar.

The "missile" claims were made because the "plume" appeared to proceed vertically from sea level up to high altitude. That is NOT a (jet) cruise missile flight profile.

AND, jet engines do not typically cause visible contrails until they reach cruising altitude of 25K - 40K ft, where condensation and conversion into persistent ice crystals can occur.

How did your "jet missile" form and display that massive "plume" up through the altitude domain from surface to 30K feet?

Answer: no such thing happened.

And Muawiyah answered your "single contrail" concern at the end of his post immediately following yours. It was a MD-80 with center engine that forms a single (twisted) contrail. There are even photos of a MD-80 doing that posted on this thread. But I've spoon-fed you enough; you're on your own to look it up...

BTW, did you even take the trouble to look at the animation (and graphics before and after it) that I referred to in my # 738? Did you even expend the effort to look at that http://contrailscience.com/ website? DID YOU?

As I said, I've had it with spoon-feeding you "yabbuts" who are too lazy to do what I did: LOOK UP THE FACTS AND PRODUCE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR OWN THEORIES INSTEAD OF DEPENDING ON THOSE OF US SEPTUAGENERIANS WITH BRAINS AND INITIATIVE TO DO IT FOR YOU!!! <mutter... grumble... growl...>

795 posted on 11/15/2010 9:12:38 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: DollyCali

you mean you actually think our government or one of its agencies would mislead or lie to us????


Possible.

In this case, likely ...


796 posted on 11/15/2010 9:16:56 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Well, after the plane rolls, bursts into flames, splits in half and kills a third of the passengers......There were many eyewitness accounts of survivers stepping over screaming, injured people to get their luggage out of the overhead compartments.

Is it any wonder we have a Marxist, Muslim, America-hating, illegal alien in the White House less than 7 years after 9/11?


I had not seen this.

Gotta laugh.

Then cry.

I weep for my country.


797 posted on 11/15/2010 9:20:12 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Benchim

The Missile is moving away from the coast. There isn’t even a dispute on that. You can see the rocket engines burning from the rear of the missile.

I agree.


798 posted on 11/15/2010 9:28:46 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: justa-hairyape
Thank you for doing your own research and linking to data we can all study!

(Speaking of which, are there any plug-ins or specific actions required to get the BHA tracker to run?)

799 posted on 11/15/2010 9:34:20 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Do you have the time for when the original video was shot ? Could not find it anywhere. Will return tonight.


800 posted on 11/15/2010 9:34:53 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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