Posted on 11/13/2010 2:55:59 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009
Hannity was surprised to hear a famous ex Air Force General tell him “That Is A Missile, Shot From A Submarine!” I quote retired Air Force Lieutenant General Tom McInerney (ex commander of 11th Air Force in Alaska) “I spent 35 years flying fighters, and you can see the guidance system kick in, I have watched that film 10 times, I am absolutely certain that that is not an aircraft, but a sub launch ICBM missile!!!” See the video and judge his words for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LivRJOWrcpA&feature=player_embedded#! I will next post a clickable link.
And the only thing "silly" about the data at contrailscience.com is your cavalier dismissal of it.
Take a look at Finny's comments on it in
#733 ,
And my comments/analysis in
and
What you say in #736 doesn't make any sense.
The animation sure doesn't show a flight descending to land in LA.
On the "silly" contrailscience.com website, look at the composite of four of those frames. EVERYTHING (except ground objects) was moving toward the left. (Can you say, "W - I - N - D" ?)
Also, use your (appropriate adjective) powers of observation and notice that the two photos you posted were at two different zoom magnifications. Think that might affect your conclusions? The creator of the composite noticed the difference and compensated for it. ("Silly" folks do things like that instead of making dumb@SS statements like yours above.)
Then follow the lead in my #738...
That’s amazing because it shows a plane drifting far to the south even though its trajectory is clearly at a right angle to that. I know W I N D can blow a contrail across the sky but I had no idea it could blow an airplane sideways across the sky so many miles. In fact that animation indicates the plane hardly made any forward progress at all.
Stick you adjective where the sun doesn't shine.
How does the zoom level change the perspective from right to left? The difference in where the contrail crosses the cloud is very different. How does the zoom level account for a time lapse, giving the contrail time to disappear, yet the vehicle, which is supposed to be heading east (and to the left of the photographer's position) still appear in nearly the same place and heading in a rightward trajectory relative to the photog's position?
Do you have tunnel vision or tunnel mentality? Look at the graphic (immediately below the animation) which shows the entire terminal flight path. The animation shows a small segment of it as it passes to the left (south) when looking out to sea from Long Beach.
Hint: one doesn't solve problems this size by looking through a pinhole...
You won’t solve anything at all with your pinhead. ;-)
750 and rising, good post DTOM2009
Wonder what sort of explosion that "missile" caused when it landed at LAX...
"Wonder what sort of explosion that "missile" caused when it landed at ONT...
Yes...and without resorting to fact-defying conspiracy theories! :-)
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http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unknown/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-11/0613921/L/
You also have to understand that this MD-11 was being imaged when it was producing a persistent contrail. The stabilized helo camera was detecting this MD-11 at extreme range. At no point could the optics zoom in close to this aircraft. It was always at extreme range. At that point the MD-11 was still up at 39,000 feet.
Your thread is dead -- and so is your "missile" -- which landed in Ontario, California.
Who's going to break the news to the General? '-)
He discerned that is wasn’t there filming at extreme range. The MD-11 was still producing a persistent contrail at that time. He was still unable to zoom completely into the object which implies to me that the object was at extreme range. The MD-11 was at 39,000 feet and being filmed at extreme range. Note my MD-11 airliner image posted above (link.)
As the MD-11 approached the coast the persistent contrail dissipates and the MD-11 continues on with a non-persistent contrail. This is visible in the second video footage release. The webcam from LAX also captured the airliner as it approached the coast. Other stills images also proved that the contrail and airliner was approaching the coast and not going away as indicated by the helo cameraman. The still s images also prove that it was a horizontal contrail that approached the coast rather than a vertical ballistic plume.
This was purely a case of an edited video, a cameraman fooled by perspective and a media frenzy leading to an outlandish conclusion.
Look at the video genius. Then eat crow.
Nope. Look at the lighting on the plume in the closeup video. Arcing westward to the setting sun.
The missile is 35 to 50 miles away. When did it achieve an elevation higher then that helicopter ? You do not know. The helicopter position is immaterial. Look at the plume. The lighting. It is the key. Bright on the right. Dark on the left. Missile arcing toward the setting sun. Arcing west. Indisputable.
All based on some calculations done in a Freerepublic thread from some zoomed in video. Wow. Now that is hard science.
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