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Amazing Interview: Air Force General says "Sub Launched Missile, 100% Certain"
Fox News Interview with Air Force General Tom McInerney | November 14th 2010 | Fox News Hannity Interview

Posted on 11/13/2010 2:55:59 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009

Hannity was surprised to hear a famous ex Air Force General tell him “That Is A Missile, Shot From A Submarine!” I quote retired Air Force Lieutenant General Tom McInerney (ex commander of 11th Air Force in Alaska) “I spent 35 years flying fighters, and you can see the guidance system kick in, I have watched that film 10 times, I am absolutely certain that that is not an aircraft, but a sub launch ICBM missile!!!” See the video and judge his words for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LivRJOWrcpA&feature=player_embedded#! I will next post a clickable link.


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To: Names Ash Housewares
That is one hell of an airplane....


701 posted on 11/14/2010 1:14:38 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Finny
"Meanwhile, go on accusing your fellows of being idiots, because that seems to be your main argument." Photobucket I believe it was you who first stated that anyone who took a look at this photo and could conclude it was an airliner lacked brains. Did you not infer that? Many people with a basic knowledge of wind and temps at altitude can indeed conclude from this photo that it is an airliner. Just because you can't, doesn't mean others can't.
702 posted on 11/14/2010 1:15:44 PM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: eyedigress

Yes many pictures have been posted.
One more is needed?

People have posted similar pictures from months ago. There is nothing new there. It looks even more like a contrail to effect to me at sunset. Webcam captured similar the next day!

But go on, chase those phantom rockets.


703 posted on 11/14/2010 1:20:04 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: eyedigress
We do. Given altitude of helo and that of “aircraft” what is the distance.....

What ZOOM setting is the camera on when the video if filmed?

704 posted on 11/14/2010 1:30:25 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2
Did you see this launch first-hand?

Now hold on a second, I asked you first. Let me put my query in plainer words: How many missile launches have you seen live? Next question: how many years have you observed in busy L.A. region coastal skies?

As for your query, I have already stated, I believe in an answer to one of your posts, but may be mistaken, that I didn't see this phenomenon first-hand. I have watched the video at least ten times. Every time I watch it, I shake my head and marvel that anyone could construe it as a commercial airline contrail. Then I marvel at the incompetence of a flying cameraman with 11 years experience seeing it live and filming it because he mistook a commercial airline contrail for a missile plume.

Now: how about a straightforward answer to my two questions?

705 posted on 11/14/2010 1:36:32 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: dragnet2
Yeah, 10" classic on a wedge. The pier is filled with find sand to help eliminate or dampen micro-vibrations caused by the tracking motors... The entire pier sunk into about 5,000 pounds of concrete for stability.. The floor is isolated from the pier, again to help reduce vibrations which would destroy images.

Man! Cooler by the second!

706 posted on 11/14/2010 1:39:10 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: UCANSEE2

Hmmmm ... from my admittedly amateur perception, this is how it works: Missiles launch things. The missile splashed down in the Pacific somewhere. Who knows what its payload was. If it was a satellite payload, it “splashed down” in orbit.


707 posted on 11/14/2010 1:47:42 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: eyedigress

That photo in post #701 is the most damning piece of evidence against you “believers”. If it’s a missile launch like you say, my goodness, the winds must be blowing 100 MPH at the launch site, because they’re already stretched out for miles after what can’t be more than 30 seconds, right? Far more likely is that it’s an airliner flying relatively straight and level at approx. 35,000 feet. Winds at that altitude can and do blow at 100 MPH and more, as evidenced by the photo. When are you people going to embrace logic and give up this foolishness?


708 posted on 11/14/2010 1:47:48 PM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Finny

I have only seen a few missile launches. From very small to very large.

I am not the one arguing that it’s a missile launch.

All the evidence points to it being a commercial airliner.

The pilot says he saw an identical plume a day or so before. Do you believe him?


709 posted on 11/14/2010 1:58:12 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Finny

If anything was put into orbit, we know about it.

We supposedly don’t.

If you were going to launch a satellite into orbit, you wouldn’t launch it from a sub, 50-100 miles out into the sea off the coast of the US. Your submarine would have to be REALLY REALLY BIG.


710 posted on 11/14/2010 2:03:06 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Gondring; TigersEye
[^)) Tiger, you know what is really cracking me up is that it seems to me that the UPS Plane suggestion didn't even show up until somebody went to the trouble of posting an actual photo of the kind of US Air plane that would be making the Hawaii-Phoenix flight, and it had a dark blue belly.

I may be wrong about this, but I am too lazy take the time to review the thousands of posts (or hundreds since I saw the UPS plane first pop up on the horizon of explanations, which has been relatively recent). Somebody who wants to prove me wrong can go to that trouble. It wouldn't matter anyway because in HONESTY I must say that the shininess of the finish on the underbelly of the plane isi what would reflect the orange sunlight, not the color, at least, that's what I'd think. So the color of the plane, it seems to me, is very possibly moot.

Of course, an aluminum-finish airliner belly would be the best reflector for a setting sun. But even if these planes were reflecting aluminum, it would not explain the absence of clear space immediately behind twin airline contrails from engines on both sides of the fuselage that cools before those twin contrails fatten up and then merge into one. That phenomenon is absent in the video footage. If it was a commercial airliner at altitude, the naked eye could probably discern that difference, binocular-aided eyes could, and so it seems to me that a professional airborne cameraman could discern it, too. In fact, I think he did. He discerned that it wasn't there.

711 posted on 11/14/2010 2:12:09 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Ronald_Magnus
Nope, not me that I recall. I freely infer that anyone who looks at a still photo from that distance with "missile" in mind is missing something pretty basic: time frame. A still shot doesnt' show how long it took for that image to form. A video DOES.

Basic knowledge of mathmatical principles ("knowledge of wind and temps at altitude") is a very different thing from basic experience of eyewitness.

712 posted on 11/14/2010 2:24:56 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: muawiyah

Doubtful. People watch Shuttle launches from the causeway and that’s six miles from the pad. That’s pretty close to witness 6.625 million lbf of thrust. One would imagine that a person could survive much closer to an SLBM launch, because that first stage is nowhere close to the thrust of a shuttle at liftoff.


713 posted on 11/14/2010 2:26:44 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: UCANSEE2
All the evidence points to it being a commercial airliner.

I have yet to see it. I've seen YOU infer the evidence.

The pilot says he saw an identical plume a day or so before. Do you believe him?

Perfect example. You infer as fact that any similar airborne phenomena could only be caused by an airliner. I have first-hand experience that dispels that assumption.

At this point, the only thing that could reasonaly convince me that it was a contrail would be if the cameraman confessed to deliberate hoaxing and clever lens-time manipulation and angling, as well as lying about what he saw. And frankly, at this point, I'd still be skeptical.

714 posted on 11/14/2010 2:44:20 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Finny
The missile splashed down in the Pacific somewhere.

Surely then, our west coast fleet is steaming there to 'recover' this 'foreign technology'.

715 posted on 11/14/2010 2:44:42 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Finny
Perfect example. You infer as fact that any similar airborne phenomena could only be caused by an airliner. I have first-hand experience that dispels that assumption.

So, you are 'inferring' that the first occurrence was ANOTHER missile that we(militarily) didn't see, didn't know about?

716 posted on 11/14/2010 2:47:42 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: justa-hairyape
How in the world do they know that contrail was the same one in that video ? We do not know the exact position of the rocket launch or original contrail.

So how did CBS conclude the "launch" was "35 miles off the coast" to place that big yellow dot on their graphic? Could it be they were just pulling that out of their posteriors too?

The GOES satellite images are timestamped, and although they're at 15 minute intervals, you can spot a smeared jet contrail along the recorded path of UPS 902 at the day and time the CBS video was shot as it drifts on the prevailing winds towards the south.

Check out ContrailScience.com - regardless of who wrote it, all the pieces add up, and don't require a mysterious Chinese submarine which somehow our billions of dollars worth of satellites, sonar nets, and radar systems didn't notice; or a mysterious Chinese submarine that they did notice but which was concealed via a carefully orchestrated conspiracy undertaken on behalf of the Obama Administration by military personnel who know that Obama hates their guts.

Horses, not zebras.

717 posted on 11/14/2010 2:50:51 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: buccaneer81
Alas, the Shuttle is a little baby kiddy rocket compared to one with an immediate blast zone 3,200 feet wide.

That's a huge rocket ~ flying saucer mothership sized!

I don't think you could get within 30 miles of it and not get hurt!

718 posted on 11/14/2010 2:51:00 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: UCANSEE2
You sort of have it! But only sort of. Hey, I'll leave it to you to use your brains; I know you've got them.

Truth is always a really handy thing to know.

719 posted on 11/14/2010 2:52:53 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Yaelle
Sometimes a missile is just a missile.

Sigmund!, is that you? lol

With the confused and uncertain messages coming from the DoD we can only guess whose it was and why it was launched. Sometimes they give advance notice of test launches but that doesn't mean they always would.

720 posted on 11/14/2010 3:02:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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