Amazing Interview: Air Force General says "Sub Launched Missile, 100% Certain"

Fox News Interview with Air Force General Tom McInerney | November 14th 2010 | Fox News Hannity Interview

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

Hannity was surprised to hear a famous ex Air Force General tell him “That Is A Missile, Shot From A Submarine!” I quote retired Air Force Lieutenant General Tom McInerney (ex commander of 11th Air Force in Alaska) “I spent 35 years flying fighters, and you can see the guidance system kick in, I have watched that film 10 times, I am absolutely certain that that is not an aircraft, but a sub launch ICBM missile!!!” See the video and judge his words for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LivRJOWrcpA&feature=player_embedded#! I will next post a clickable link.

[Tommyjo]

LOL Finny. So why are Jane’s dropping it like a hot stone?

[Sto Zvirat]

So, for over a week dozens of people have posted factual analysis, data showing where the plane was, sat photos of the contrail, comparative photos of other contrails, including one 24 hours later that was similar, weather data, and all kinds of explanations of the science behind the contrail.

And what proof has the missile crowd produced? Absolutely nothing, just hearsay from some obscure military folk who weren’t there, are not experts on the subject and don’t address any of the data or science.

The missile crowd crossed into kook land on day one, now its just sad and pathetic to watch them clinging on to a kooky position, in the face of real data.

Is it any wonder why conspiracy theorists are so marginalized on the fringe?

[Finny]

So why are Jane’s dropping it like a hot stone?

I will not even venture to pose a theory. As Werhner von Braun would say, "That's not my department."

[Sto Zvirat]

LOL Finny. So why are Jane’s dropping it like a hot stone?

The conspiracy theorist answer would be that "they" got to Jane's! Now Jane's is just a shill for the evil "them". You can't argue with a conspiracy theorist, because when you prove them wrong, they just accuse you of being part of the conspiracy, then they create a new one.

[Ronald_Magnus]

Here's a time-stamped photo of the object from an LAX webcam, which is located approx 20 miles NW of where cameraman Gil shot his video. A completely different camera angle of the event. Now if it was indeed a missile heading West by NW as some here believe, this new camera angle shouldn't really alter that perception significantly. The object should still appear to generally head to the right if you're viewing it from the east. But it doesn't do that, does it? Another pic I posted is of the webcam pic overlaid on the radar track of flight UPS902. As you can see, it lines up exactly. So, unless your one who thinks there's a whole passel of people working to cover something up(For what reason?), this should prove the missile theory is hereby DEBUNKED! These pics were courtesy of contrailscience.com

[TXnMA]

It's dead, Jim!

(But watch out for the zombies...)

[TigersEye]

The winds at the altitude of the jet are pushing the contrail to the south, which is why the contrail does not follow the line of the flight path.

In the video we can see the contrail being formed and it is perpendicular to that FlightAware drawing. The wind hadn't blown it anywhere as we can see it being made. So, that is a nice explanation but it doesn't wash.

[TigersEye]

The problem with your drift theory is that the contrail is being blown by winds of 25-30 mph to the southeast. The overlaid pics above accurately show that. But the plane is moving at a right angle to the wind at a minimum of 500 mph. The plane barely moves forward in this multiple overlay while the contrail moves a lot. That doesn't make sense no matter what perspective problems you throw into it.

[exit82]

If that is the same event, then why does your photo show a timestamp of 11/8/10 at 18:15:44.

That is one and one half hours later than the event, which was at 16:45 pm on 11/8/10.

And why are lights on and the horizon dark when it was still daylight when the event occurred?

[TXnMA]

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[lbahneman]

You say perpendicular, I say perspective.

[lbahneman]

The camera and/or server did not account for daylight savings to standard time. (The switch only a week earlier). They have since corrected it:

http://www.cargolaw.com/lax_webcam2.html

[lbahneman]

What is your source of “winds of 25-30 mph to the southeast” at 39,000 feet?

[TigersEye]

I have been looking for the pics of the separation (gap) in the plume and can’t find them anywhere. They were screen captures from Gil Leyvas’ video. I looked through about 20 pages of a Google search then scrolled through every page of about ten FR threads, including this one, and have come up empty. I thought there were at least two but maybe there was only one. Surely more than one person has put them on a server? Do you know the pics I mean and can you find them?

[TigersEye]

Well, I know it isn’t traveling at over 500 mph. Looking up info on jet streams they average between 100-140 mph up to about 42,000 ft. Yet the contrail has moved further in the sky in that time-lapse overlay than the “aircraft.”

[TigersEye]

You say perpendicular, I say perspective.

If you're not going to take it seriously then there's not much point is there? We see the contrail being made and it is at a right angle to the simulated flight path of UPS902 FlightAware created.

[exit82]

The camera and/or server did not account for daylight savings to standard time. (The switch only a week earlier). They have since corrected it:

Then you're still one half hour off.

[TXnMA]

"...the contrail is being blown by winds of 25-30 mph to the southeast."

At the altitude where contrails form, the winds are more typically 75-100 mph -- and are often in a different direction than surface winds. But I guess that isn't important if you don't think contrails are...

[lbahneman]

Where do you get “the event, which was at 16:45pm”? The sun was still up at 16:45. Official sunset was 16:54. If you’re basing it on the KCBS video, the sun had passed beyond the horizon (even for the helicopter, which would have pushed that time a few minutes later for its elevation).

[TXnMA]

Thanks to Tommyjoe's # 1272:

Try this.

Look 40-45 seconds out -- and following. (But watch out for those little black UFOs zipping by from left to right...) ;-)

Even the "red" plume plays out toward the end of that clip...