British politician: ‘Israel is the root cause of terrorism'

JPost.com ^ | JONNY PAUL

[CommieCutter]

"Between 1944 and 1948 they were. Or have Americans forgotten the Irgun and the Stern Gang?. We havent."

Nor should you. Remember, the Jews are always out to get you. That evil Salk vaccine. Cel phones. The largest number of medicines created by any one group. Real throwbacks, those Jews. Your own sentence betrays your intransigence. "Between 1944 and 1948." Oh. So...they stopped? If you think Arabs wouldn't continue their terrorism even if Israel was disintegrated off the face of the earth, I'm sorry to disappoint you that you'll never see that happen. I'm sure some kind Arab will make a place for you in a sharia-compliant cemetary somewhere. You'll have a special space reserved for you, in the infidel section.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Jenny has it all wrong. There is indeed "Holocaust guilt", but it has nothing to do with modern-day Israel and the Palestinians. Rather, it infects all of western Europe and prevents Germany, France, Spain, et al from daring to purge the Muslims who, after centuries of thwarted attempts, are finally poised to take over the continent.

And that is the result of the infection of Jewish thought by eighteenth century European "enlightenment" philosophy and the exaltation of Churban 'Europa' rather than Mt. Sinai as the central and most important event in human history.

[Signalman]

The picture shows why most liberal women are bitter old hags (even the young ones). They are, for the most part, hideous. No sane man with an ounce of self-respect, would touch them.

[Cacique]

Yes and applying the logic, jews caused the holocaust and were the reason for nazis.

[KC_Lion]

oh Yes I know, but if it pleases you I will use the term narrow-minded anti-jewish putzes.

but also remember that not all Muslims are Semitic, and some are even blonde british girls.

mmmmmm I wonder if that has a connection to what we are talking about here

[ccmay]

If Israel is so evil, why hasn’t Mossad been sent out to take care of people like this Tonge sh!tbird? They’d get nothing but sympathy from me.

[Pollster1]

I suppose productivity is the root cause of armed robbery too. If people wouldn't make something worth stealing, there would be no theft? How about admitting the obvious instead: evil is the root cause of terrorism. The solution?

[rmlew]

And do you hate America because of 1776? In fact, shall we look at all the former-British colonies that were liberated by violence or let go because of said violence? Do you hate all of these, or just those uppity damn Jews who were fed up with the British sending Jews back to their deaths, arming the Arabs, and ignoring the British Mandate for the Creation of a Jewish State in Palestine.

[MasterGunner01]

The elite, ruling class in the UK have always had a virulent streak of prejudice against Jews. Their antisemitism runs deep. I'm sure there are more than a few who would like Iran to get the bomb and use it on Israel. What ignorant fools they are.

[truth_seeker]

The runup to WWII, with Britain and France refusing to block Hitler, leaves them not qualified for such judgements.

Remember Chamberlain’s “Peace For Our Time?”

[rmlew]

I am assuming you dont know of the Jewish terrorism in what was then British-controlled Palestine in the 1940’s.
I certainly do. Do you know about the British keeping JEws out from 1929 onwards, helping Arab migration, and arming ARabs druning WW2? Do you know about the British turning away Jewish refugees during World War 2?

There were two Jewish terrorist gangs who bombed and shot hundreds of British soldiers and civilians as well as Jewish and Arab civilians: the Irgun and the Stern Gang. They even murdered the UN Peace Envoy to the region in 1946, Count Bernadotte, a Swedish antinazi who had spent ww2 saving thousands of Jews across Europe and getting them into neutral Sweden.
I am well aware of Count Folke Bernadotte as he saved my grandmother's life after the war. National Liberation movements often do a few bad things. Shall I go over Scottish and English history with you?

Their intention was bomb and terrorise Britain into agreeing to the Jewish state that Britain had initiated in 1917 with the Balfour Declaration.
You mean having the British live up to their promises instead of keeping the Jews out arming the Arabs to kill Jews. The horror.

Their most notorious exploits were the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946 in Jerusalem and the capture and torture-murder of two British soldiers, who after being murdered had their bodies strapped with explosives so as to kill other British soldiers who found the bodies.
King David Hotel; Oh you mean British occupation HQ? Seems like a legitimate target.
As for the two soldiers, awful shame, but the British were hanging members of the Irgun. Tit for tat.

The Irgun’s leader was none other than Menachem Begin, who of course went onto be Isreali leader and win a Nobel Peace Prize(!). Begin and the Irgun also committed the notorious massacre at Deir Yassin in 1948 of Arab men, women and children, for which no one was ever brought to book.
Because Deir Yassin was not a massacre. That is a silly lie put forth by the Arabs and the leftist-enemies of the Irgun. Do you konw what happens when foreign armies hold civilian hostages and shoot soliders from behind them? Civilians die. Comming from the homeland of Bomber Harris, your arguement is laughable.

The Stern Gang, founded in 1939, were even worse. Their leader Abraham Stern, actually met Nazi representatives in 1941 in order to discuss continuing anti-British operations in Palestine in return for Hitler agreeing to stop the murder of European Jews and allowing them to be shipped via German ships to Palestine.
That damn bastard. He wanted to save Jews at a time when the British refused to take refugees. You also forget to mention that Stern's overtures to the Nazis so incensed Jews in Palestine, that he was betrayed to the British by the Igun. And you probably don't know that the Stern Gang (Lohamei Herut Israel, "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel") was founded in response to the White Paper of 1939, keeping Jews out of Palestine. On the other hand the Irgun, from which the Stern Gang was a splinter, choose to end anti-British activities. In fact, the head of the Irgun, David Raziel, died in 1941 when he his car was bombed by the Germans, while he was on a mission for the British.

Britain under UN agreement withdrew from Palestine in late 1947. The Irgun and Stern disbanded in early 1948. Israel was of course founded later that year.
Any causality here if your mind, or do you think the British left Palestine and stopped helping to kill Jews out of the kindness of their hearts?

[rmlew]

Let me get this straight. The BBC and virtually the entirety of British media is antizionist. The left peddled anti-semitic conspiracy thoeries about neoconservatives. And you attack the EDL which is both Zionist and open to Jews.

[rmlew]

Antisemitism means “JEw hatred”, nothing more. The term was created for JEws. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

[the scotsman]

‘I certainly do. Do you know about the British keeping JEws out from 1929 onwards, helping Arab migration, and arming ARabs druning WW2? Do you know about the British turning away Jewish refugees during World War 2?’

Yes I do. The situation in Palestine 1918-1944 is a bit more complex than you make out. The British were stuck in the middle between two groups with intent to take Palestine and with violent factions in both camps. I also know that Britain then and now was accused of blowing up ships with Jews on them, which of course was and is a lie.

I also know my history weel enough to know what the likes of Orde Wingate was doing in the 1930’s: setting up and training Jewish self defence units in Palestine.

Ah, those Briddish. Helping Jews to defend themselves.
Bastards.

’ National Liberation movements often do a few bad things. Shall I go over Scottish and English history with you?’

Oh spare me. The Irgun and Stern Gangs were no William Wallaces or George Washingtons.

They were and are no more a ‘legitimate’ national ‘liberation group’ than the IRA. They were terrorists pure and simple.

‘King David Hotel; Oh you mean British occupation HQ? Seems like a legitimate target.
As for the two soldiers, awful shame, but the British were hanging members of the Irgun. Tit for tat.’

Wow. So you actually think some terrorism is legitimate?.

Well, if thats the case, then you wont mind if I think the USS Cole or the American Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were legitimate targets.....?.

As for tit fot tat, the Jews the British hung were Irgun/Stern terrorists who had already murdered and killed British soldiers and civilians. Notably Lord Mayne in 1944.

Yet you make it sound as if the British were hanging Jews for fun. Shameful distortion of history.

‘Because Deir Yassin was not a massacre. That is a silly lie put forth by the Arabs and the leftist-enemies of the Irgun.’

Irgun veterans themselves admit that at least 25 people were executed AFTER the battle. There is ample evidence from the Jewish side that day that brutality took place.

It is a ‘lie’ to say that nothing took place that day. Something beyond the battle did. Whilst what happened may be the subject of inflated story and counterfact, there is no doubt that SOME brutality took place by the Jewish terrorists that day. So much so that the Jewish Agency for Israel apologised for the actions of the Irgun.

‘Any causality here if your mind, or do you think the British left Palestine and stopped helping to kill Jews out of the kindness of their hearts?.

Yes, it proves that terrorism works when you have good PR. Then and now.

‘stopped killing Jews’.....again, the history reduction ad absurdum. The only Jews the British killed in Palestine were the murdeing terrorists who took British, Jewish and Arab life.

The Irgun and Stern Gangs were the ones that killed innocent Jews in Palestine in those years. Those unfortunate enough to be in the vicinity of their terrorism or those who had the decency to oppose their zealotry and remain decent Jews without hatred in their heart.

[rmlew]

I also know that Britain then and now was accused of blowing up ships with Jews on them, which of course was and is a lie
So the british would not sabotage ships in port rather than face international incidents? Really?
Next you are going to tell me that the British did not prevent JEws from migrating before the war.

I also know my history weel enough to know what the likes of Orde Wingate was doing in the 1930’s: setting up and training Jewish self defence units in Palestine.
And Wingate was treated as a pariah. Compare that to Lieutenant-General Sir John Bagot Glubb, aka Pasha Glubb, who led the TransJordanian army in the war of annihilation against the Jews.

Ah, those Briddish. Helping Jews to defend themselves. Bastards.
1 officer acting againts policy, as the British disarmed Jews and armed Arabs.

Oh spare me. The Irgun and Stern Gangs were no William Wallaces or George Washingtons.
I don't recall the Irgun or LeHI attacking York or Toronto. And we all know how well Wallace treating English captives.

They were and are no more a ‘legitimate’ national ‘liberation group’ than the IRA. They were terrorists pure and simple.
So do you hate the Irish, or just the Israelis?

Wow. So you actually think some terrorism is legitimate?.
Terrorism is a tactic. These were not terrorist acts.

Well, if thats the case, then you wont mind if I think the USS Cole or the American Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were legitimate targets.....?.
1. The US does not occupy Kenya, Tanzania or Yemen.
2. The USS Cole was a perfectly legitimate target. It's a war. Our commanders murdered our sailors with their stupidity and arrogance. As for Al Qaeda, we are at war with them. They are the enemy and should be hunted down along with their families who provide refuge for them.

As for tit fot tat, the Jews the British hung were Irgun/Stern terrorists who had already murdered and killed British soldiers and civilians. Notably Lord Mayne in 1944. Yet you make it sound as if the British were hanging Jews for fun. Shameful distortion of history.
I provided context for the killing of the British soldiers, you make them sound like innocents.

Irgun veterans themselves admit that at least 25 people were executed AFTER the battle. There is ample evidence from the Jewish side that day that brutality took place.
Not to my knowledge. As for the "Jewish side", there was no unified Jewish side. The Communists and Socialists spread rumors of the massacre working the Arabs to discredit the Irgun. Are you normally on the Communist-ISlamist side?

It is a ‘lie’ to say that nothing took place that day. Something beyond the battle did. Whilst what happened may be the subject of inflated story and counterfact, there is no doubt that SOME brutality took place by the Jewish terrorists that day. So much so that the Jewish Agency for Israel apologised for the actions of the Irgun.
The Jewish agency was run by political opponents of Revisionist Zionists. They were all to willing to slander the Irgun. But the truth is that Israelis and Jews in general have a sniviling habit of feeling bad and apologizing before the facts are discovered. This has happened dozens of times in the last decade. Not that the Pro-Palestinian British media will publish the facts.
You might be interested in the Irgun account, which is backed up. http://www.etzel.org.il/english/ac17.htm

Yes, it proves that terrorism works when you have good PR. Then and now
And the English have never committed questionable acts. The Irgun and Stern Gangs were the ones that killed innocent Jews in Palestine in those years.
No, that would be the Palmach. Look up the Altalena incident. Those unfortunate enough to be in the vicinity of their terrorism or those who had the decency to oppose their zealotry and remain decent Jews without hatred in their heart.